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Do you think adding another 5000 Haitiens to our population will really be that bad? They are on the brink of death and you want them just to die?

You are Human first...then everything else....life is the most important and helping those in need is a must.

Don't be so selfish. And don't move into Haitien ghettos.
 
All of these useless refugees are going to end up in Quebec for one reason and one reason only - LA LANGUE FRANCAISE!

Do these people have any skills? No.
Are they going to be educated? No.
Do they have any money? No.
Are they going to turn to crime? Most likely.

So next time your car is broken into and your laptop and iphone are stolen or your appartment is broken into.... or if you get just mugged in the streets at knife or gunpoint, who will be to blame? Our pussy politicians who turned Quebec into a nanny-state.

All of these refugees will waste millions and millions of taxpayer dollars.... crime rate will go up and we'll need to have more police officers on the streets. But not to police but to give out tickets and act as proxy tax collectors for the nanny state.

Don't be surprised if you'll see photo radars on every street. Don't be surprised if Decarie speed limit is lowered to 50 and if all major street speed levels are lowered to 30. Don't be surprised if the PST jumps by 2% and if your personal taxes are raised.

Stop voting morons (separatists and liberals) into office and maybe Quebec won't end up as a province with the standard of living that can be compared to Haiti, Zimbabwe or Afghanistan.

It's time to wake up people... unless of course you like living in a state of mediocrity.

With this type of talk..Karma will get you and will will get robbed and murdered. Hopefully not.


They are as human as us and have had the unlucky draw to be born there instead of here. They deserve a chance.
 
this is the proof we don't live in a real democracy, did the gouvernement ask us if we were in favour of this?

no, like always.

and I dont want them here, we already have job problem.....

but I am in favour of helping the childrens.
 
Do you think adding another 5000 Haitiens to our population will really be that bad? They are on the brink of death and you want them just to die?

There's nothing wrong with sending them aid. It's up to them to rebuild. And if they die, well the world is already over-populated. Each natural disaster (Haitian earthquake, cold wave in mongolia, montenegro floods, india/nepal/bangladesh cold wave, landslide in pakistan, earthquake in tajikistan... well they help reduce world population to a more manageable number.

Ever wonder why so many third world countries have so many natural disasters? Well it's nature's way of controlling the population. Only the strongest survive. The smart and well-off people migrated to stable areas whereas all the less fortunate people ended up in unstable areas.
 
Ils veulent les refugiés ici pas de probleme....mais qu'il les renvoient par la suite quand la situation sera meilleur pour eux. Au au pire des cas tes envois toute a rouyn-noranda dans le nord et tu leur fais un beau petit camp a la ''Distric 9'' ca va deja etre le paradis pour eux comparer a leur bidon vil dans quoi ils restaient.
 
Serieux si le gouvernement arretait de créé des ghettos et obligait la population a finir leur secondaire avant d'arreter l'ecole les gens seraient deja plus eduques donc plus éveillés intellectuellement, ils auraient plus de portes ouvertes alors ils penseraient moins a voler ou a faire des crimes e.t.c.
Quand tu n'as rien a perde et que toutes les portes sont fermés c'est là que tu commences a penser a faire des conneries. et c'est toujours plus difficile de les ouvrirs plus tu vieillis.

la moyenne des gens auraient un travaille mieux remunérés alors ca boosterait l'economie. J,ai toujours trouvé ca riddicule le fait qu'apres avoir atteint l'age de 16 ans les jeunes ne sont plus obligé d,aller a l'ecole. Quand un jeune décroche c,est a ce moment la qu'il commence a faire toute sorte de connerie et ca devient un cercle vicieux.

Et quand tu es pauvre dans un ghetto et que tu vies du racisme, que lorsque tu sors de chez toi tous ce que tu voies ce sont des putes pi des membres de gang de rues qui se promene en bmw qui te montre que c,est hot d'etre gangster. Pour un jeune de 14 15 16 ans qui vie ca tous les jours.Pour ces jeunes la marge de mannoeuvre est très mince entre faire le bon ou le mauvais choix.

Pour les immigrants adultes meme chose, tu entre ici tes en mesure de travailler on te laisse quelques mois pour te fammilliariser avec l'endroit, sois tu retournes à l'école ou sois que tu trouves un travaille.
Ils devraient faire la meme chose avec les Quebecois ici qui sont en état de faire quelque chose de leur vie. C,est pas difficile et serieusement faire quelque chose de sa vie sa remonte l'estime de sois.
 
[mrquote userid="1036" username="Russianguy" forum="40" thread="686140" message="7175776" ] All of these useless refugees are going to end up in Quebec for one reason and one reason only - LA LANGUE FRANCAISE!

Do these people have any skills? No.
Are they going to be educated? No.
Do they have any money? No.
Are they going to turn to crime? Most likely.

So next time your car is broken into and your laptop and iphone are stolen or your appartment is broken into.... or if you get just mugged in the streets at knife or gunpoint, who will be to blame? Our pussy politicians who turned Quebec into a nanny-state.

All of these refugees will waste millions and millions of taxpayer dollars.... crime rate will go up and we'll need to have more police officers on the streets. But not to police but to give out tickets and act as proxy tax collectors for the nanny state.

Don't be surprised if you'll see photo radars on every street. Don't be surprised if Decarie speed limit is lowered to 50 and if all major street speed levels are lowered to 30. Don't be surprised if the PST jumps by 2% and if your personal taxes are raised.

Stop voting morons (separatists and liberals) into office and maybe Quebec won't end up as a province with the standard of living that can be compared to Haiti, Zimbabwe or Afghanistan.

It's time to wake up people... unless of course you like living in a state of mediocrity.

With this type of talk..Karma will get you and will will get robbed and murdered. Hopefully not.


They are as human as us and have had the unlucky draw to be born there instead of here. They deserve a chance.[/mrquote]

This is why there is such a big dilemna, on one side you HAVE to help them, like you said, youre a human being first. Should we let them die? OF COURSE NOT!

De l'autre cote, tu sais tres bien qu'il a totalement raison. Presentement le Quebecois moyen est pratiquement incapable de se faire soigner en cas de besoin. Imagine si au cours des jours/mois/annees on fait rentrer un bon nombre d'immigrants par exemple venant d'Haiti. Dans quelle condition sont ces gens la? Ils sont plus que pauvres, completement malades, affames, sans logis ni vetements ni RIEN d'ailleurs, a peu pres aucune education. Qu'est ce que tu penses qui va arriver? C'est le bs assure, les soins de sante a fond la caisse(et je parle meme pas des frais dentaire/ lunettes/ protheses/ortheses etc etc).

Avec une situation du genre on est bon pour l'abime. Ya au dessus de 40% de la population Quebecoise qui vit sous le seuil de la pauvrete!!!!!!!Pas a 5000km la...ICI AU QUEBEC!!! On fait quoi avec eux? "Ah bin desole boys and girls, on auraient pu vous aider a integrer le systeme MAIS du a l'arrivee massive de refugies eh bin mangez dla marde..."

Je suis meme pas contre le fait qu on amene ces gens la ici au Quebec parce que c'est juste d'etre humain, ces gens la sont au bord de la mort presentement, les laisser sans aide significative(autre que juste shipper de l eau et de la nourriture) serait faire preuve de monstruosite. But then again..what do we do? Should we just go bankrupt because of it?

FUCKING money.
 
ouais au moin si ils von s'installer dans les région et developper des fermes et l'agriculture sa serais bon pour tout le monde mais y von venir directement a montreal nord et commancer a faire des demandes pi nous traiter de racistes 2 mois plus tard.
 
[mrquote userid="164" username="v70Rsik" forum="40" thread="686140" message="7175803" ] Do you think adding another 5000 Haitiens to our population will really be that bad? They are on the brink of death and you want them just to die?

There's nothing wrong with sending them aid. It's up to them to rebuild. And if they die, well the world is already over-populated. Each natural disaster (Haitian earthquake, cold wave in mongolia, montenegro floods, india/nepal/bangladesh cold wave, landslide in pakistan, earthquake in tajikistan... well they help reduce world population to a more manageable number.

Ever wonder why so many third world countries have so many natural disasters? Well it's nature's way of controlling the population. Only the strongest survive. The smart and well-off people migrated to stable areas whereas all the less fortunate people ended up in unstable areas.[/mrquote]

Tu n'as pas tort sur certains points, mais d'un autre cote, on ne peut pas laisser ca aller comme ca. La Terre n'est pas surpeuplee comme tu dis, la population des pays pauvres est juste pas au bon endroit. C'est moche a dire mais ya plus de place disponible sur la terre que necesaire. C'est evident que c est pas tres tres habitable du aux conditions meteorologiques mais ya beaucoup de place au centre et au nord du Quebec et des autres provinces de l'ouest Canadien.

Comment est-ce qu'on peut juste decider que "fuck them let them die theyre not worth anything" comme ca froidement? En meme temps, qui va payer pour ca? Qui va regler les problemes ici qu'on a DEJA et les autres qui s'ajouteront avec une vague d'immigration...? C'est tellement problematique comme situation..

Imaginez juste un instant 50 000 refugies qui rentre au Quebec dans les prochains six mois..lol...un estie de beau bordel que ca ferait. Faites juste imaginer la problematique. Ces gens n'ont a peu pres aucune base pour refaire leur vie ici. Pas d'education, aucuns biens ni argent, aucun logis, a peu pres pas de famille...Woah..were in for a freaking ride my friend...
 
Faut les forcers a travaillers ou a retourner a l'ecole exiger un diplome sois Dep ou wathaver pour qu'ils restent ici sinon ils retournent dans leur pays. J'ai un ami tunisien il vient juste d'arriver ici c,est ca qu'il l'ont force a faire pour qu'il puisse rester ici. Sinon il va devoir retourner chez lui et faire une demande a partir de son pays qui et ca va prendre des années avant qu'il puisse avoir une reponse et meme la c pas sur.
 
[mrquote userid="164" username="v70Rsik" forum="40" thread="686140" message="7175803" ] Do you think adding another 5000 Haitiens to our population will really be that bad? They are on the brink of death and you want them just to die?

There's nothing wrong with sending them aid. It's up to them to rebuild. And if they die, well the world is already over-populated. Each natural disaster (Haitian earthquake, cold wave in mongolia, montenegro floods, india/nepal/bangladesh cold wave, landslide in pakistan, earthquake in tajikistan... well they help reduce world population to a more manageable number.

Ever wonder why so many third world countries have so many natural disasters? Well it's nature's way of controlling the population. Only the strongest survive. The smart and well-off people migrated to stable areas whereas all the less fortunate people ended up in unstable areas.

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funny way of thinking, just like an elite. Tell me russian u think of urself as an elite?

USA ALONE! has more natural disaster combined annually compare to the countries u mentioned; Hurricanes in the east, tornadoes in the central and forest fires, earthquakes, mudslides and freezing temperatures in the west.
R U saying the USA is a third world country?
 
Do you think adding another 5000 Haitiens to our population will really be that bad? They are on the brink of death and you want them just to die?

You are Human first...then everything else....life is the most important and helping those in need is a must.

Don't be so selfish. And don't move into Haitien ghettos.

J'ai aucun probleme contre aidé... mais ce qui va arriver est que dans 3-4 ans, quand ces réfugiés auront oublier ce que le Québec a fait pour eux, ils seront aussi les premier a venir nous traiter tous de raciste et de nous jumper a 4-5 pour nous voler notre portefeuille ou parce qu'on les a regarder de travers...
 
Un autre detail qui me fait "rire" presentement. Presentement on assiste a une vague de pensee humaniste, secouriste, d'entraide, de generosite etc au niveau de la population mondiale qui vie "bien" mais ya pas 2 semaines de ca, 99.99999% de cette population se calissait royalement d'Haiti et de tout autre pays du tier monde.

Special ein?
 
Le mouvement haitien revendique au gouvernement plus d'ouverture pour l'acceuil du peuple haitien. Ils veulent qu'on accepte les enfants, les parents, les tantes et les oncles.. donc les cousins...

Incroyable!!!! c'est pas des petites familles là!!!
 
the children are going to wealthy americans and europeens, we getting the crimminals and the uneducated.. true story
 
Seriously, I think we should start the montreal-racing national party! (aka the bnp). It wold be the only way to stop this shit. I'm kidding with the name, but not the rest. Liberals and pq aren't gonna do shit because their too pussy, and they have the ethnic vote. Parizeau was fuckin right, what took him down is that he had the balls to say it out loud: The ethnic vote fucked it all. (I'm not separatist nor federalist, all I want is the best for québec)
 
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