News: We are saved: Screw petrol, 0.4$/L hydrogen gasoline FTW

mig0s

mig0s

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Seems like new technology will replace the use of petrol pretty soon. 1.5$/gallon is like 0.4$/L. Plus, it is emission free.

UK-based Cella Energy has developed a synthetic fuel that could lead to US$1.50 per gallon gasoline. Apart from promising a future transportation fuel with a stable price regardless of oil prices, the fuel is hydrogen based and produces no carbon emissions when burned.

The technology is based on complex hydrides, and has been developed over a four year top secret program at the prestigious Rutherford Appleton Laboratory near Oxford. Early indications are that the fuel can be used in existing internal combustion engined vehicles without engine modification.
According to Stephen Voller CEO at Cella Energy, the technology was developed using advanced materials science, taking high energy materials and encapsulating them using a nanostructuring technique called coaxial electrospraying.

“We have developed new micro-beads that can be used in an existing gasoline or petrol vehicle to replace oil-based fuels,” said Voller. “Early indications are that the micro-beads can be used in existing vehicles without engine modification.”

“The materials are hydrogen-based, and so when used produce no carbon emissions at the point of use, in a similar way to electric vehicles”, said Voller.
The technology has been developed over a four-year top secret programme at the prestigious Rutherford Appleton Laboratory near Oxford, UK.
The development team is led by Professor Stephen Bennington in collaboration with scientists from University College London and Oxford University.

Professor Bennington, Chief Scientific Officer at Cella Energy said, “our technology is based on materials called complex hydrides that contain hydrogen. When encapsulated using our unique patented process, they are safer to handle than regular gasoline.

http://www.nanotech-now.com/news.cgi?story_id=41530
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A l'heure qu'il est, soit ils ont une couple de millions dans les poches, ou qui sont pendus au bout d'une petroliere avec leur lab en feux.
 
À moins qu'ils ont un nouveau procédé ca prends beaucoup d'électricité pour produire de l'hydrogène.

C'est encore pire que le gas si l'électricité monte: je peux choisir de ne pas aller loin en fin de semaine mais il est difficile pour moi de ne pas chauffer ma maison.
 
RWDLover1 said:
À moins qu'ils ont un nouveau procédé ca prends beaucoup d'électricité pour produire de l'hydrogène.

C'est encore pire que le gas si l'électricité monte: je peux choisir de ne pas aller loin en fin de semaine mais il est difficile pour moi de ne pas chauffer ma maison.
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Si tu click le lien, ca dit qu'ils ont trouver une facon de reduire considerablement le cout de production de l'hydrogene. C'est pour ca qu'ils peuvent le vendre a 0.4$/L constamment.
 
s'est comme le gars a Boucherville je crois avec sont truc qui ''distillais'' le gaz qui donnais une combustion complète 0 émission ect ect l'usine était a st-eu je crois on en a jamais entendu parlé sois il est mort sois il a été acheté. Il avais installé sa sur des véhicule d'urgence je suis pas sur que se sois Boucherville
 
mig0s said:
Si tu click le lien, ca dit qu'ils ont trouver une facon de reduire considerablement le cout de production de l'hydrogene. C'est pour ca qu'ils peuvent le vendre a 0.4$/L constamment.
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J'avais lu le lien vite fait mais imagine que la demande en hydrogène augmente de 1000000%...c'est sur que l'électricité va augmenter elle aussi.

Même chose pour les véhicules plug in full electrique.

Il faut un hybride diesel/electrique qui a du bon sens.*tu*
 
Il faut garder le pétrole pour faire des dash en plastic de qualité, pas pour le brûler dans nos moteurs.

En tout cas, ça serait une bonne nouvelle, même s'il y a de quoi être septique en attendant.

RWDLover1 said:
À moins qu'ils ont un nouveau procédé ca prends beaucoup d'électricité pour produire de l'hydrogène.

C'est encore pire que le gas si l'électricité monte: je peux choisir de ne pas aller loin en fin de semaine mais il est difficile pour moi de ne pas chauffer ma maison.
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On va rouler à l'hydrogène et chauffer au gaz :run:
 
finally.. how did we not invent this 20 years ago?
however the quality of the language in the article is so-so, therefore leading me to believe it's bs!
 
Popular Science article:

http://www.popsci.com/science/artic...ynthetic-gas-can-burn-your-car-zero-emissions

lol starts off like this:

We’re going to go ahead and write this one because it’s all kinds of interesting, but know that we are doing so with all kinds of skepticism, fair readers. Because anytime anyone claims to have created inexpensive synthetic fuel that will burn in conventional automobile engines with no carbon emissions, you simply have to be on your guard. Nonetheless, UK-based Cella Energy claims to have done exactly that by devising a hydrogen-based synthetic fuel that could replace gasoline in cars.
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Electric cars are crap.... the real future is Hydrogen....

since 2004 Mazda announced a Hydrogen powered RX8. (Hybrid of course, Gas/Hydrogen)
in 2006 they offered it in limited production to clients (for leases). And they also offer a Mazda5 with the same hydrogen powered renesis rotary engine.
And in 2008 the project was expanded to Norway.


And BMW also released a serie 7, called the Hydrogen7 back in 2006-2007.


 
Too good to be true, but eventually we will need a solution. Just not sure it will happen in this lifetime.
 
RWDLover1 said:
À moins qu'ils ont un nouveau procédé ca prends beaucoup d'électricité pour produire de l'hydrogène.
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I just did a quick read on Cella Energy's website.

It is in fact a new procedure. They are desorbing ammonia borane in a polystyrene 'bag'. In fact, Cella's big patent is the encapsulation. By using co-axial electro-spinning, they are trapping the hydride release of the ammonia borane in ambient temperature and pressure. This bypasses the entire extraction and storage step, which is very costly.

Simply put, the polystyrene beads are plastic bags that are like pills. Within these pills, there is hydrogen fuel. You throw these pills into your car, your engine burns the pill-capsule away and you get your raw hydrides along with the by-products.

The problem is that this fuel is in developmental phases. The main issue is that the ammonia borane leaches ammonia and borazine, which will probably kill your engine.

They are currently working on different small compounds that have less hydrides by weight, but more rapid desorption and less byproducts.

I have included a diagram of how the process works. Although it requires a high-voltage source, this is cheap to produce on an industrial scale.

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In this case, core is the hydrogen fuel source and sheath is the plastic bag.

These guys are not car enthusiasts and do not see the problems that I see for the time being. My criticism for this novel fuel is that ammonia borane is a very toxic compound, both for humans and cars. We are basically burning this stuff in a nano-structured plastic bag, which will smell bad and still be a source of pollution.

Hopefully they develop a better compound because their current choice, although ranks best for hydride availability, is poor in terms of efficiency.

So for the skeptics, this technique is not 'too good to be true'. Nevertheless, it has problems for the moment.
 
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