Israel vs Hamas: Deadly Theater (Thread About the On Going WAR)

Jews and arabs are unique peoples too, separated by more than religion. They do have common ancestry, but so do the others i've mentioned.

This is true, still doesn't change the fact that you can't kick someone else out of their country.
 
Jews and arabs are unique peoples too, separated by more than religion. They do have common ancestry, but so do the others i've mentioned.

We are cut from the same cloth, it is such a disaster that we do this to each other. You know we co-existed for millenniums before the first Azkanazis arrived.
 
You see, French Quebecers and Zionist Israelis are very much alike

Exactly. Both these peoples are small ethnic groups (7mil jews, 8 mil french) surrounded by a much larger ethnic group (hundreds of millions of arabs over there, hundreds of millions of english descendants over here), that also have a minority of that very large ethnic group in their midst (palestinians there, anglophones here).
The differences are that Qc is not a country and that Israel gives full cultural and linguistic rights to their arab minority while french here are trying to smother english culture and language as much as they can.

It has always intrigued me why separatist quebeckers tend to support and identify with palestinians when their situation is clearly more similar to that of the israelis.
 
World leaders due to arrive as Israel-Hamas armistice nears

Cease-fire brokered by Egypt, Turkey, Qatar in works, Channel 2 reports; Egypt's Morsi says "some indications" of truce in Gaza; French FM Fabius to visit J'lem, Ramallah; ground operation prepared despite cease-fire talks.
Col. Amir Baram briefing soldiers. Photo: Courtesy IDF Spokesperson

International leaders are due to arrive in the region in the coming days in an effort to calm the hostilities between Israel and Hamas and to help broker a cease-fire.

Channel 2 reported on Saturday night that according to Arab sources, a cease-fire brokered by Egypt, Turkey and Qatar was in the works.
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Two rockets land outside J'lem; two fired at TA
Iron Dome intercepts missiles aimed at Tel Aviv

There were “some indications” of the possibility of a cease-fire soon, but there were “no guarantees” yet, Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi said.

Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal, who is in Cairo, held talks on Saturday with Mohamed Shehata, head of Egypt’s General Intelligence Service, on the possibility of achieving a cease-fire, sources close to Hamas said.

The Arab League in Cairo on Saturday said it backed Egypt’s effort to secure a truce. It plans to send a delegation to Gaza in the coming days.

French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius is due to arrive in Jerusalem on Sunday, according to Israel’s Foreign Ministry.

He will be in both Jerusalem and Ramallah.

UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon is also expected to arrive in the next few days. He will visit Israel, the Palestinian territories and Egypt.

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The United States has urged Egypt and Turkey to pressure Hamas to halt its rocket attacks against Israel.

On Saturday night, as Operation Pillar of Defense entered its fourth day, major international leaders – including US President Barack Obama and European Union foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton – backed Israel’s right to self-defense, but spoke of the need to de-escalate the situation.

Even though it was Shabbat, the nine-member security cabinet met in Tel Aviv.

At the same time, cabinet secretary Tzvi Hauser held a telephone vote with the full cabinet, which authorized calling up 75,000 reservists into duty, up from the 30,000 previously okayed, in case the government decides to send ground forces into Gaza.

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, Defense Minister Ehud Barak and Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman also met on Friday and on Saturday night.

Netanyahu lobbies international support

On Saturday, Netanyahu spoke with German Chancellor Angela Merkel, Italian Prime Minister Mario Monti, Greek Prime Minister Antonis Samaras, Czech Prime Minister Petr Necas and British Prime Minister David Cameron.

Netanyahu reiterated his message that no country in the world would agree to a situation in which its population lives under constant missile threat.

On Friday, he held his second conversation with US Obama since the start of Operation Pillar of Defense. He thanked Obama for supporting Israel’s right to defend itself and for US assistance in buying the Iron Dome antimissile batteries.

Obama in turn called Morsi, commended his efforts to deescalate the situation and said he hoped they would be successful.

Obama said he regretted the loss of Israeli and Palestinian lives. He added that it was important to resolve the situation as quickly as possible to restore stability and prevent any further deaths.

On Saturday, Obama called Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan and spoke with him about ways to stop the violence.

Ben Rhodes, White House deputy national security adviser, told reporters the US “wants the same thing as the Israelis want,” which is an end to rocket attacks on Israel by Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.

Separately, Netanyahu on Saturday sent his condolences to the Office of the Egyptian President about the bus and train accident in central Egypt in which at least 49 children were killed.

Egypt’s behind-the-scenes work has taken place against a backdrop of harsh rhetoric against Israel.

Morsi denounced Israel’s attacks on the Gaza Strip as “a blatant aggression against humanity” and said Cairo “would not leave Gaza on its own,” the state news agency MENA reported.

Morsi made the comments in a speech following Friday prayers in a mosque in central Cairo, MENA said. His prime minister, Hisham Kandil, visited the Gaza Strip on Friday.

“Cairo will not leave Gaza on its own... Egypt today is not the Egypt of yesterday, and Arabs today are not the Arabs of yesterday,” Morsi said.

Ashton, Merkel voice support for Israel

Ashton and Merkel both issued strong statements in support of Israel’s right to defend itself on Friday.

“The rocket attacks by Hamas and other factions in Gaza, which began this current crisis, are totally unacceptable for any government and must stop,” Ashton said.

“Israel has the right to protect its population from these kind of attacks. I urge Israel to ensure that its response is proportionate,” she said. “I am deeply concerned at the escalating violence in Israel and the Gaza Strip and deplore the loss of civilian lives on both sides.”

Ashton added that she had spoken with leaders in the region, including Netanyahu, UN Secretary-General Ban Kimoon and the office of Morsi, as to how best to de-escalate the situation.

“In my discussions, I made the point that we must move forward in finding a solution to the Middle East conflict so that millions of people in the region can finally live in peace and security,” she said.

A German government spokesman said on Friday that Merkel is “very worried” about an escalation of violence in the Middle East and calls on Hamas “to immediately stop shooting rockets from Gaza into Israel.”

“Hamas in Gaza is responsible for the outbreak of violence,” spokesman Georg Streiter told a news conference.

“There is no justification for the shooting of rockets at Israel, which has led to massive suffering of the civilian population.

“The chancellor urges those responsible in the Gaza Strip to immediately stop firing on Israel. At the same time she calls on the Egyptian government to use its influence on Hamas to limit the violence and bring it to an end,” he said.

Streiter said the Israeli government had the “right and obligation” to protect its citizens.

The UN Secretary-General’s Office appealed to Israel and Hamas to stop the “dangerous escalation and restore calm.”

“Rocket attacks are unacceptable and must stop at once.

Israel must exercise maximum restraint,” the office said.

Reuters contributed to this report.
 
Israel only shooting at military target *blah*


http://www.lapresse.ca/international/moyen-orient/201211/17/01-4595047-israel-tire-vers-la-syrie-et-blesse-des-journalistes-a-gaza.php
Journalistes blessés à Gaza

Des frappes aériennes israéliennes ont touché un centre de médias dans le centre de la ville de Gaza tôt dimanche matin, blessant au moins six journalistes, ont indiqué des sources médicales palestiniennes.

Par ailleurs, deux Palestiniens ont été tués peu après, dimanche, lors d'un autre raid dans le nord de la bande de Gaza, selon les mêmes sources.

«Au moins six journalistes ont été blessés lorsque des avions israéliens ont touché le bureau de la chaîne de télévision al-Quds situé dans le complexe Showa et Housari, dans le quartier de Rimal», au centre-ville, a déclaré Achraf al-Qoudra, un porte-parole des services de santé à Gaza. Un des journalistes a perdu une jambe, selon les médecins.

Selon des témoins, ce complexe a été sérieusement endommagé. Les journalistes à l'intérieur ont été évacués après un premier raid, qui a été suivi par au moins deux autres frappes sur ce site. La chaîne de télévision al-Quds est considérée comme proche du mouvement islamiste Hamas au pouvoir à Gaza.

Dans le nord de l'enclave palestinienne, deux Palestiniens ont été tués et dix blessés au cours de deux raids séparés sur des maisons, a par ailleurs affirmé M. al-Qoudra.

«Deux jeunes Palestiniens ont trouvé la mort et au moins dix autres ont été blessés lors de deux raids à Beit Lahiya et Beit Hanoun», dans le nord du territoire, non loin de la frontière avec Israël, a-t-il dit.

Enfin, la marine israélienne, positionnée au large de l'enclave, a bombardé intensivement la ville de Gaza dans la nuit, selon des journalistes de l'AFP sur place.

Seize Palestiniens avaient péri dans la journée de samedi, ce qui porte à 48 le nombre de Palestiniens tués depuis le début de l'opération militaire israélienne contre la bande de Gaza mercredi dernier.

Once all "military" target will have been hit. Water treatment, sewage processing, electrical grid and bridges will fall.
 
soldat qui fond leur job de soldat et protégé des enfants.

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Au nouvelle il vont dire quil prend les enfants en hotages.
 
Never really heard about problems with jews and muslims in morroco .. maybe its just me who can't see any. But when it comes to someone stealing a country well why would they love them?


stealing a country...

palestine is a new country too.

it was born in the 18's.
 
Exactly. Both these peoples are small ethnic groups (7mil jews, 8 mil french) surrounded by a much larger ethnic group (hundreds of millions of arabs over there, hundreds of millions of english descendants over here), that also have a minority of that very large ethnic group in their midst (palestinians there, anglophones here).
The differences are that Qc is not a country and that Israel gives full cultural and linguistic rights to their arab minority while french here are trying to smother english culture and language as much as they can.

It has always intrigued me why separatist quebeckers tend to support and identify with palestinians when their situation is clearly more similar to that of the israelis.
^^^^^^
 
Palestinians shoot down Israeli F-16 fighter jet in Gaza: Hamas
According to Hamas sources, the Israeli F-16 fighter jet was shot down on Friday.

Meanwhile, several Israelis were injured after three rockets fired from Gaza hit the Zionist settlement of Gush Etzion in al-Quds (Jerusalem).

Palestinian missiles and rockets have also hit the other Israeli cities of Tel Aviv, Eshkol, Ashdod, Ashkelon, and Be'er Sheva.

In Tel Aviv, a rocket hit a commercial district while a second rocket landed 200 meters away from the American Embassy. It is the first time that Tel Aviv has come under attack in decades. Three Israeli soldiers have been injured in a rocket attack in Eshkol.


Hospitals across Israel are now in state of emergency.

Palestinians have fired over 550 rockets and missiles into Israel since Wednesday after Tel Aviv launched a major military strike against the besieged Palestinian territory, killing scores of people, including women and children.

The Israeli Army says it has hit more than 600 targets in Gaza during the past three days.

According to Israeli sources, the Iron Dome missile shield has only intercepted one-fifth of the rockets fired from the Gaza Strip.

Meanwhile, residents of the besieged Gaza Strip say they are getting text messages warning of military escalation as reports suggest that Israeli military forces are preparing for a ground invasion of Gaza.

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/11/16/272691/israeli-f16-jet-shot-down-in-gaza/

LOL at PressTV
 
^They are the equivalent of Jpost but on the other side lol.

presstv are straight up story tellers. Unless you forgot about the libyan article you posted about american troop movements from press tv that DannyITR locked because "the thread was a fabrication with no foundation" you would think a shot down f16 would make it onto other news pages..

Presstv also posted a story about a book that doesnt exist "israel and the movement for south sudan" by a man that doesnt exist "moshe fergie" with a position in the mossad that doesnt exist "brigadier general" they really do live a sad life of brainwashing gullable people.
 
presstv are straight up story tellers. Unless you forgot about the libyan article you posted about american troop movements from press tv that DannyITR locked because "the thread was a fabrication with no foundation" you would think a shot down f16 would make it onto other news pages..

Presstv also posted a story about a book that doesnt exist "israel and the movement for south sudan" by a man that doesnt exist "moshe fergie" with a position in the mossad that doesnt exist "brigadier general" they really do live a sad life of brainwashing gullable people.

I agree. But American troops were deployed in Libya, covert obviously.
 
lol! I like the atmosphere here alot
More now haha

In all honesty, I feel the destruction of Israel will be an internal matter. It's just a question of time. Surrounded by millions if not billions of alienated folks that can't wait to get a hand on that land.
 
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