News: 2012 Volkswagen Passat Debuts for North America
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Dread Specter
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VW is spiraling downwards and out of control. I cannot stand a single of their new models except the Scirrocco which we don't have anyways. Honetsly, VW is out of the picture for me. My MK5 will have been the last VW in my driveway. For christ's sake, that style is disgusting and is so bland it looks like a fucking camry. Damn you Vdub, If i wanted a fucking snoremobile, I would've gotten one with reliability at least..... Epic Fail, worst styling of the last 30 years. Even fucking hyundais look more charismatic.... So very disappoint, son.
sparcosoul
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sorry but recently they have more reliability than toyota..
logik23
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Toyota had one recall that affected a little tiny piece in their accelerator pedal on the entire range of cars. A problem that was fixed for all owners. That has nothing to do with reliability. Toyota is still number one for reliability, they have been for years. Don't kid yourself, you drive a zippo.
sparcosoul
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and you drive an old sh*t box..
sparcosoul
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were, yes still no. dont hate..
no hatin but i'd take his shitbox in a heartbeat.
sparcosoul
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My car isn't fast and i dont intend on it being fast, so far it has been reliable - custommer service on my end is great, and guess what it didn't catch on fire yet. All that JDM drivers have to say is that VW's burn all the time yeah old ones, we don't live in the past and VW is now the #1 car manufacturer in the world and its not because of nothing that they are there. So logik, if you want to say that my car is a zippo, then be my guest, but until it burns down ill back up my ideas
logik23
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VW is number one??? Hahahahaha
Toyota is number one and will be for another couple of years.
VW can only try to catch up by building bargain basement cars like the new Jetta and Passat. GM fell from grace when they became number one, Toyota had problems when they became number one and when VW becomes number one, this cost cutting scheme will come back to bite them in the ass.
Toyota is number one and will be for another couple of years.
VW can only try to catch up by building bargain basement cars like the new Jetta and Passat. GM fell from grace when they became number one, Toyota had problems when they became number one and when VW becomes number one, this cost cutting scheme will come back to bite them in the ass.
RedLemon
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sparcosoul
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serious enough for you to go look for pictures and post them on a thread that apparently isnt worth your time.. LOL
RedLemon
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Thank you for finally bringing some sens to this page.Somebody gotta tell to this sparco die hard fanboy he's mad crazy
Took less time than writing what you've just posted btw.
sparcosoul
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lol, yeah so they bumped off quality, and ? your going to tell me that a corolla or a civic dont look cheap ? f off..
logik23
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lol, yeah so they bumped off quality, and ? your going to tell me that a corolla or a civic dont look cheap ? f off..
Corollas and Civics have always been cheap, but they keep getting better. The Jetta and Passat were nice and are now cheap, they got worst. See the difference?
sparcosoul
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if you look at a top line jetta, its not that cheap u have a screen. disk breaks etc.. 2.5 engine.. u can also get leather.. yes they did bump off a little bit on quality i admit but it dosent mean its shit either.. again, they have a strong marketing team im sure they know what they are doing
Broody
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Toyota especially, has really cut in quality on the last corollas...
And the actual one is basically a 2002 corolla with a newish design.
Even with the 2.5 and leather, you still have the rear (solid?) beam and cheap quality palstics, poor fit and finish. Theses kinds of things can only lead us to think that the car will wear out faster and be less relaible (they have never been but well..).
logik23
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Broody, aside from the quality of the plastics, the 2011 Corolla is far beyond the previous generations. Much more room, quieter, more comfortable, great fit and finish (even if the plastics are too hard), great stereo, amazing fuel economy and a pretty low price, all things considered: for 15k CDN, you get a roomy sedan with traction control, stability control, ABS and 6 airbags.
The top line Corolla has a 2.4 liter engine, 4 wheel discs, leather, sunroof, awesome stereo, 17" wheels. :dunno:
The top line Corolla has a 2.4 liter engine, 4 wheel discs, leather, sunroof, awesome stereo, 17" wheels. :dunno:
Broody
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I dunno for the 2011, but they don't have much more room (just slightly more), and aren't more comfy either (and they passed from fully independent suspension to torsion beam I think).
And I drove a 96 or so corolla (A/T) once and it was a bit noisy, but not that bad, and it was probably the tranny or the muffler, because I actually found a tercel (M/T) of the same year quieter, and also quieter than let say a 2010 Honda Fit. And fit and finish is fine on the new corolla, but not better than before, and plastics not only are hard but looks and feel cheap, compared to the ones in the older models (especially the pre 1998 ones). But yes, corolla are still a good value for money (cheaper than before to buy, and still fuel efficient and cheap to maintain). Only, I'd take a civic over it, since it's cheaper than before too, and even if the plastics are harder than before, fit and finish is better than ever.
Only thing that was BS with the corolla was the cheap cloth trim in the base grade models (VE) before, you had to grab the CE version to get the nice pseudo velour interior. And on ALL small Toyota (corolla or smaller, any year) the front seats don't go enough rearward for tall people. German cars are the best for seats adjustments and front legroom (even if I was disapointed by some low end VW I tried in Ecuador). All corollas in Ecuador have 4 wheel disc brakes too, I guess it's sold as a premium car there.
And I drove a 96 or so corolla (A/T) once and it was a bit noisy, but not that bad, and it was probably the tranny or the muffler, because I actually found a tercel (M/T) of the same year quieter, and also quieter than let say a 2010 Honda Fit. And fit and finish is fine on the new corolla, but not better than before, and plastics not only are hard but looks and feel cheap, compared to the ones in the older models (especially the pre 1998 ones). But yes, corolla are still a good value for money (cheaper than before to buy, and still fuel efficient and cheap to maintain). Only, I'd take a civic over it, since it's cheaper than before too, and even if the plastics are harder than before, fit and finish is better than ever.
Only thing that was BS with the corolla was the cheap cloth trim in the base grade models (VE) before, you had to grab the CE version to get the nice pseudo velour interior. And on ALL small Toyota (corolla or smaller, any year) the front seats don't go enough rearward for tall people. German cars are the best for seats adjustments and front legroom (even if I was disapointed by some low end VW I tried in Ecuador). All corollas in Ecuador have 4 wheel disc brakes too, I guess it's sold as a premium car there.