Tu peux tout dire mon loup mais tu parles souvent à travers ton chapeau pour Tesla.
Le quart de mille reste le quart de mille c'est sur une track mesures contrôlées.
C'est débile mental les chiffres qu'on voit ces temps-ci, low et sub 9 avec un char ordinaire même as de modifications.
Avec la simplicité de l'électrique ça va juste descendre encore plus, plus de batteries avec des strips de décharge plus rapide, plus de gros fils pis that's it. Surtout quand tu veux juste faire une run pis attendre 15 minutes après pour tempérer.
Je serais pas surpris de voir du 8.x bientôt et d'autres micro compagnies sortir des one-offs encore plus vite. Déjà les "exotiques" sortent 8.6 même pas sur une track officielle.
Parlé a travers mon chapeau? Où ça? Je trouve les Tesla laides ça c'est une opinion, je trouve les fanboys absolument détestables sur le net ça c'est une opinion. J'ai rien dit de faux sur des faits par contre à ce que je saches?
Regarde engineering explained ça en dit long comment Tesla fonctionne pour leur chifffs que ça soit range ou 0-96kmh mais c'est beau pour internet.
J'ai absolument rien dit contre le chiffre de quart de mille c'est impressionnant! je pense que ça va être de moins en moins impressionnant dans pas si long et devenir le standard des chars électriques même les pickups vont faire 11sec quart de mille
Tesla battery event a montré une nouvelle batterie cell plus grosse avec un système qui permet le charge rapide et décharge rapide au lieu d'un petit tab sur chaque cell. Si ça décuple le transfert d'énergie des batteries ça va être fou la performance et peut être enfin recharger dans un temps digne d'une station service.
Je suis pas réfractaire à l'innovation ni aux chars électriques j'aime juste pas vraiment les voitures Tesla pour plusieurs raisons et c'est mon droit.
Driving an electric car it's weird, but the lack of outside noise due to soundproofing makes you a calmer driver. You're more relaxed. No joke.
La tienne est pas blanche déjà tu es sans la minorité absolue. J'espère tu ose rouler plus vite que 100 aussi
Je suis descendu à Bromont lundi férié j'ai du dépasser 20 Tesla 3 blanches, aucun roulant plus que 100kmh. On dirait que 98% des proprios sont zéro intéressés dans les chars.
Sidebar discussion mais c'est comment l'hiver? Ma Volt c'était débile froid+vitesse... Hiver avec des snowboards sur le toit
Parlant de range En fds passée j'ai fait 2x 7h de route moyenne 130 peak 200 j'aurais pas pu faire ça en Tesla sans perdre significativement de temps.
Pis je bullshit pas, avant le resto 693km moyenne 131kmh et 9 minutes d'arrêt gaz/pisse//uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210603/b46f534dc51e15960bc6a7acc62541bd.jpg
but I can't stress enough that driving a 30year old blue exhaust fume smoking shitbox is better for the planet that buying any new car, Tesla or not.
I am having a hard time with Tesla fanboys as well...
It's an electric car, that wasn't even the one to do it first, get over it.
Benefits like: driving calamity, never having to put gas... Sure that's great, I'd have to experience it.
Everybody I know that has a Tesla and brags about it, still has a gas car to make themselves feel fully autonomous.
The things that discourage me about Tesla:
- For the price tag, of a premium segment vehicle (seemingly), I would expect the doors to close evenly, the trim to line up and the paint to stay in better shape than it does. I guess this is aimed at a Model S more because the Model 3 is cheaper.
- The autonomy that is affected by everything and anything including the mood of Karen, bothers me. You can brag all about free/fast charging stations on Fairview mall. Fact is, you're sitting there charging, I'm driving my gas powered "piece of shit". Just the general feel of being able to get anywhere I want unaffected keeps me from Tesla. Certainly this will change with the improved battery technology and recharging, as well as charging station availability.
- The acceleration numbers posted are great, but we all know you can't do 10 in a row, and if you can or someone can, please post a video.
- For the price, I'd much rather an Audi E-tron or a Porsche Taycan (talking Model X money, but you get the quality and proper door alignment in both cases)
Lastly is the price calculation/difference that simply doesn't make sense to me (yet, I suppose):
Average gas spending is 3-4k. Let's make it 5k
Let's also assume that charging a Tesla costs you nothing (which isn't true)
Average lease is 3-4 years, therefore 15-20k in gas savings.
Whether you take a Model 3, a Model S or a Model X, their class competitor is much more than 20k cheaper, leaving you room for all the gas in the world, insurance and then some.
I was looking at a fully loaded Model X with autopilot in 2019. Price was almost 160k.
Then there is an X5M for 110-120k, or a and X5 5.0 for 90-100k, or an ML63AMG for 120-130K... etc etc.
What do I lose? 1.0sec 0-60? Once... haha
On a serious note, the number's aren't there yet.
Tesla sales are in my opinion still mostly based on solid and excellent marketing, vegan "culture" and belief that you're saving the planet.
The saving the planet part is a whole other discussion, but I can't stress enough that driving a 30year old blue exhaust fume smoking shitbox is better for the planet that buying any new car, Tesla or not.
well after 13 years in a comparable gas-powered car, you break even CO2-wise. If you're burning oil it's probably much less than that. And an electric car, I think the average is after 2-5 years of ownership (in a nonrenewable electricity setting), the electric car surpasses the gas-powered economy car. After 5 years, you're electric car costs zero CO2 if you're charging with renewable sources. The reality is electricity-powered personal transportation is the future and should be the present. It's not even close, and that's with current battery tech where we hardly recycle the raw materials.
There's a loooooot of electric car more suitable then Tesla, better quality etc.. But for my budget a SR+ was the best option. I was paying 500$ a months (12000$ down) for my Golf R and close to 400$ a months in fuel. Now I pay 730$ full buble with 3000$ down if I remember correctly.
In two years and 5 months off because of covid I drove 60000km on it. With my Golf R it would be 60000km/100km x 10L per 100km= 6000L of fuel x 1.50 for 94 (on the low side just to prove my point) that's 9000$ of fuel in two years.
Now to each is own but I was changing my oil every 5000km.. 12 oil change at 60$ that I do on my own time .. so 720$
DSG service was due at 45000km for 500$
Total savings with a ruff estimate of 10220$
No need to change your brake for like 200000km ..
Remove 1220$ of electricity just to push it...
9000$ in savings.. I ain't saying it's for everyone. You need to drive it to put your money where your mouth is! On longer trips for sure it can suck to stop charging for 20 minutes but Tesla still offer the fastest charging out there for ''cheap'' cars and a exclusive charging network that allowed me to go all the way down to Ocean City. It would be even longer with a Kona, Bolt, Mustang Mach e, none of them are as fast and still impossible to go at some destinations. Anyway just saying.. It's always a pick your poison fight.
For what I want for a daily, it's a ''perfect'' daily. I'm not talking Model X, S or higher Model 3... I'm speaking for a 50000$ daily driver.
Oh and last thing.. I can launch it 50 times if I want too.. But like Math was saying.. after 5/10 runs at the max.. I'm good.