old camaros?

[LanEvo]

I still want to know what is the difference between "drifting" and "power sliding"

Power oversteer is certainly one form of drifting. For those of us who learned on RWD cars, I think it's the first form of drifting we figured out!

For the kind of drifting that takes place on a racetrack (say, trailbraking into the carousel at Tremblant and balancing a gentle slide on the throttle all the way onto the back straight) you really want a car that has lots of poise and gives you great feedback at the limit.

Cars like F-bodies and live-axle Mustangs are easy to powerslide in first and second gear around a wet corner, but I'm not sure how confident you would be when it comes to trailing throttle oversteer in 3rd and 4th gears! Personally, I'd want a car with more detailed feedback for that kind of thing...maybe that's why these aren't super popular on the drift scene :dunno:

Emre

 

[Tex]

LanEvo, funny to see you enjoying the drift section *tu*


camaro 57/43 ? it's not bad...

I was checking road and track, and they gave an e46 BMW 330ci 55/45

 

[LanEvo]

LanEvo, funny to see you enjoying the drift section *tu*

It's funny...I'm not actually into drifting at all! But this is the only section on MR these days where anyone actually discusses driving technique and suspension set-up. The rest of MR is pretty boring.

Emre

 

[Trueno]

Not sure I agree with the turbo part. I'm not a drifter...but I do have tons of track experience (as an instructor with the BMW CCA, BMW CC, PCA, SOCCI, etc.). I used to track normally aspirated, RWD cars (mostly BMW) and now I've got a turbo, AWD car. Here's what I've noticed...

While the turbo is nice in terms of how much power you've got on tap (340 hp and 340 lbs/ft in my case ), your throttle inputs get exaggerated. This makes throttle steering very tricky.

When a powerful NA car is drifting in a turn, a slight lift and you can easily tighten your line. When you lift in a turbo car, the boost suddenly drops off and the car responds much more than you anticipate. It's tricky to balance. The throttle sensitivity of a powerful NA car is hard to match with a turbo. You can compensate with LFB (if you're comfortable with that technique), but it's not ideal.

Emre

I agree 110% with that comment. Last summer I had a S13 with a nearly stock KA24DE, but a very worked-on suspension(TEIN Coil-Overs, camber plates ETC.) and had alot of fun praticing on it.

My buddy, Alex, also owns a S13 but with a SR20DET swap and some basic but very good suspension (Adj.shock and springs) work, he let me try is car a few time's trying to get me to do the swap too. I could'nt be as regular in my slides as I where with my N/A.

Let me explain :
I said that the S13 is the best plateform because it is easier too make power with a turbocharged car than a N/A car. And if you want to make faster powerslides than 2nd gear slides, you'll need more than 150Hp. My car would die if I'd try any sliding past 2nd gear.

But like you said, modulating the throttle in a turbo car is harder than a N/A but once you got it down...Turbo can be your friend.