Québec veut empêcher l’immatriculation de véhicules d’ailleurs qui ne respecteront pas ses normes de 2035

AsunaMAXXX said:
en effet

des histoires d'horreur sur le resale value , surtout quand Ford a commencé a donner 20-24k de rabais fin mai 2024 sur leur modèle 2023... j'étais sur le point de signer un platinum pour 92k + tx , 5 mois plus tôt , y'a du monde qui avait payé ça 118k + tx

sur la page facebook de f-150 lightning y'avait du monde avec des platinum 2023 50-60 000km qui se faisait offrir 70k+ tx par le dealer en trade-in , 49k de dépréciation en 1 an ( bon ok , il avait eu le 10k de éco camionnage et en plus le pickup était dans la compagnie alors le DPA pour les véhicules électriques est de 50% la première année ) reste quand même que ça donne une méchante clac au visage

mais Ford on manqué leur coup, surtout la criss de boite de 5'5'' , imaginons un peu s'il avait sortie la version Pro , mais en supercab + boite de 8 pieds, c'était écris dans le ciel que ça aurait été un succès dans le commercial

mais non, fallait qu'ils offrent uniquement le crew cab pour Kavin et sa nunuche pour aller faire l'épicierie au SuperC
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Je pense que la réalité la dedans est que la technologie ne permet pas de répondre a la vrai demande dans ce segment.

Un F-150 Électrique c'est un gros SUV avec une boite. Suspension arriere pas concu pour avoir un gros payload et la batterie qui devient genante quand tu remorque.

Je crois que c'est pour ca qu'il n'y a pas de version work truck réel
 
GregsterEV said:
It was gone off Tesla site on Saturday Am. The program was funded until the next budget but no way of passing a top up. We have no gov currently

Manufactures will offer rebates.
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Tesla just priced the Model 3 out of the iZEV program, what a stupid decision. They should've at least surfed the wave until the program was killed in March.

MSRP went from 54 990$ to 55 990$ effective from Saturday I believe.

Model 3 sales will dip for sure.
 
RedLemon said:
Tesla just priced the Model 3 out of the iZEV program, what a stupid decision. They should've at least surfed the wave until the program was killed in March.

MSRP went from 54 990$ to 55 990$ effective from Saturday I believe.

Model 3 sales will dip for sure.
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odd still listed and they would crater sales. The holding lot near us is full

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GregsterEV said:
odd still listed and they would crater sales. The holding lot near us is full
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List is clearly not up to date as this happened over the week-end.

Tesla removed the program from their website as they know they don't quality anymore (over 55K$ MSRP base model).

I guess the holding lot near you will stay full for a little longer.

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Tesla has made small but significant adjustments to the pricing of its electric vehicles in Canada. Along with raising the price of the Model Y, the Model 3 has seen the same $1,000 price increase […]
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RedLemon said:
List is clearly not up to date as this happened over the week-end.

Tesla removed the program from their website as they know they don't quality anymore (over 55K$ MSRP base model).

I guess the holding lot near you will stay full for a little longer.

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No More Teslas Eligible For iZEV Rebate in Canada After Tesla Increases Model 3 Prices

Tesla has made small but significant adjustments to the pricing of its electric vehicles in Canada. Along with raising the price of the Model Y, the Model 3 has seen the same $1,000 price increase […]
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I really expected the base 3 to be under 50k in Canada by now…. Like 49990$
 
GregsterEV said:
I really expected the base 3 to be under 50k in Canada by now…. Like 49990$
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As per official government website the program was officialy paused as of yesterday, wow

Situation is extremely chaotic for dealers, not sure how we went from 71M$ available on Friday to 0$ on Sunday.

Should spread in the news pretty soon.

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RedLemon said:
As per official government website the program was officialy paused as of yesterday, wow

Situation is extremely chaotic for dealers, not sure how we went from 71M$ available on Friday to 0$ on Sunday.

Should spread in the news pretty soon.

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Well current gov has never been good at calculating… unless they are trying to rework the program with threat of tariffs coming in
 
Spoke to a friend at a manufacture (not dealer actual OE) and it completely caught them off guard. No warning whatsoever.
 
Same here.
Just got an email about it.
Everyone is caught by surprise. It wasn't supposed to be until March.
 
eamon7 said:
Plus la technologie avance, plus il va y'avoir plein tonne de matériaux qui nécessitent de l'entretien et qui peuvent se briser facilement et même dès que tu la sort du dealer...c est la réalité aujourd'hui... ça n'a rien avoir que l'auto soit électrique ou à essence...l'exemple des problèmes de l'Audi E-tron montre comment VW reste parmi encore les entreprises qui n'ont pas la meilleur réputation dans l'industrie automobile. J'ai hâte que les loi contre les bebelle citron du Québec va rentrer en vigueur parce que c'est rendu le Far West quand les consommateurs restent prisent avec une achat de plus de 60K$ mais son auto passe le moitié du mois au garage.
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elle est pas supposé être déjà actif? après 3 réparation infructueuse ou 10-12 de tout problème confondu en 3 ans tu peut forcé le fabricant a la reprendre
-Mike- said:
Chose certaine est que les cours des dealers sont plein de EV.

Avec la fin des rabais.... Oufff la valeur de revente des used va chuter pcq c'est les Cie qui vont faire des rabais sur les EV pour s'en débarasser.
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dépend véhicule..... ceux-qui on acheter des overpriced EV vont se faire avoir, moi au contraire la mienne viens prendre valeur (chevy bolt),
je suis heureux...haha

guide de l'auto fin crédit:
Et pour cause, la hausse certaine de la valeur des VÉ d’occasion, engendrée par la hausse de prix des modèles neufs. Ainsi, une Chevrolet Bolt EV 2023 qu’on vend actuellement à plus ou moins 27 000 $ pourrait voir sa valeur rapidement grimper au-delà des 30 000 $. Parce que le coût d’acquisition d’un Equinox EV pourrait grimper de 9 000 $ et parce que les concessionnaires auront du mal à se réajuster rapidement.
 
DrDevil87 said:
Same here.
Just got an email about it.
Everyone is caught by surprise. It wasn't supposed to be until March.
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The confusion must be crazy right now on top of cancelled deliveries.

The mismanagement on the federal level is crazy, they announced that they were to kill the program on March 31st or earlier last Friday, yet they announce that the program is done 48H after...how is that even possible ?

I'm curious to see if some manufacturers will react in some ways to save the pending transactions and move vehicles.

Any smart buyer will postpone their EV purchase to later this summer when we'll learn if programs are resuming or not.
 
DrDevil87 said:
Same here.
Just got an email about it.
Everyone is caught by surprise. It wasn't supposed to be until March.
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RedLemon said:
The confusion must be crazy right now on top of cancelled deliveries.

The mismanagement on the federal level is crazy, they announced that they were to kill the program on March 31st or earlier last Friday, yet they announce that the program is done 48H after...how is that even possible ?

I'm curious to see if some manufacturers will react in some ways to save the pending transactions and move vehicles.

Any smart buyer will postpone their EV purchase to later this summer when we'll learn if programs are resuming or not.
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We currently have no actual gov in place…. Ottawa is a mess currently
 
GregsterEV said:
Friday- We are good until March
Monday- We have no money
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We went from almost 72M$ available on Friday to 0$ on Monday.

Is there any loophole with the program that some dealers used to draw this crazy amount over the week-end ? There's no way more than 14 000 EVs were sold & plated during the week-end in Canada.

On Jan. 13, the ZEV Council sent out another message to its members: “Due to an unprecedented volume of requests received following the announcement on Friday, January 10th, the iZEV Program funds have now been fully committed.” The fund had $71.8 million as of Jan. 10 — enough for roughly 14,360 more battery-electric vehicle rebates.
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RedLemon said:
We went from almost 72M$ available on Friday to 0$ on Monday.

Is there any loophole with the program that some dealers used to draw this crazy amount over the week-end ? There's no way more than 14 000 EVs were sold & plated during the week-end in Canada.
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No clue. My friends are saying they were completely caught off guard at the manufacture level. No warning

I am strongly suspecting its a move in preparation for tariffs or opening market to Chinese manufacturers next few weeks. As crazy as it sounds. Another possibility is to be on equal terms with USA as Trump is expected to can the 7500$ on day 1
 
GregsterEV said:
No clue. My friends are saying they were completely caught off guard at the manufacture level. No warning

I am strongly suspecting its a move in preparation for tariffs or opening market to Chinese manufacturers next few weeks. As crazy as it sounds. Another possibility is to be on equal terms with USA as Trump is expected to can the 7500$ on day 1
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Manufacturers should immediately swallow the pill and reduce their MSRPs by at least 4000$ to compensate for the iZEV loss, secure pending transactions and continue surfing this EV sales wave while it can last.
 
RedLemon said:
Manufacturers should immediately swallow the pill and reduce their MSRPs by at least 4000$ to compensate for the iZEV loss, secure pending transactions and continue surfing this EV sales wave while it can last.
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well yes and no, cause that's going to be a direct like a "HEY GOVERNMENT, THANKS FOR THE FREE MONEY FOR THE PAST 8-9 YEARS!!!"
 
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