Shabby Aston Martin Classic Goes For 835 000 Euros At Auction

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A classic Aston Martin endurance racer has been sold for an astonishing £679,100 at auction, despite being in an unrestored condition.

The 1949 Aston Martin DB Team Car went under the hammer at the Bonhams auction at last weekend's Festival of Speed. It was the manufacturer's first racing car after David Brown bought the company in 1947.

This particular car has finished the Le Mans 24-Hour race, finishing seventh place (and third in class) in the first post-war endurance race in 1949 at La Sarthe, France. Two weeks later, it finished fifth overall at the gruelling Spa 24-Hour race at the Francorchamps road circuit in Belgium.

























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I'd love to see that properly restored, as originally as humanly possible, to its original LeMans state.

...but seriously...that's a courageous 835,000 euros spent...
I hope it doesn't stay as a museum piece and finds a second life as a occasionally driven classic.
 
Je ne serais pas surpris, qu'entièrement restorer la voiture ce vende 2-3millions
 
I'd love to see that properly restored, as originally as humanly possible, to its original LeMans state.

...but seriously...that's a courageous 835,000 euros spent...
I hope it doesn't stay as a museum piece and finds a second life as a occasionally driven classic.

The guy that bought this for 1.2 mil certainly does not intend on using this car as lawn art, nor does he intend on swapping in an LS engine and RTX wheels...
 
I'd love to see that properly restored, as originally as humanly possible, to its original LeMans state.

...but seriously...that's a courageous 835,000 euros spent...
I hope it doesn't stay as a museum piece and finds a second life as a occasionally driven classic.

Jay Leno was talking about that.. saying people spend a ton of cash to restore the cars only to have them pushed around at shows or never start them because in reality they don't run or run like shit. He used most Cord/Dusenburg owners as examples as having million dollar machines but too cheap to get them working properly or even driving them. There was a man that was making new engine blocks, modern cylinder head and other bits. Leno supported this guy and bought a ton of spares, a head was around 30k.. What happened to the guy making the parts? He stopped because most owners moaned saying "Oh you know it's not original I can't have that and wow 50K for an engine black how dare you" He said most Cords/Dusenburgs have old engines that smoke and overheat but was 100% original at the concourse of elegance. Meanwhile Leno drives up in his.
 
If this car was bought by an Englishman, it will most likely show up at Goodwood in 10 years, a bit scruffy and mostly original, being trashed by Jenson Button or Lewis Hamilton.

If it was bought by an American, you will see it at Barrett-Jackson next year, waaaaay too shiny, laser straight and having never started the engine, and sell for an ungodly amount of money.

Overgeneralization much? Obviously... ;)

I hope option A wins, however. A race car should be raced, even if very infrequently.
 
Jay Leno was talking about that.. saying people spend a ton of cash to restore the cars only to have them pushed around at shows or never start them because in reality they don't run or run like shit. He used most Cord/Dusenburg owners as examples as having million dollar machines but too cheap to get them working properly or even driving them. There was a man that was making new engine blocks, modern cylinder head and other bits. Leno supported this guy and bought a ton of spares, a head was around 30k.. What happened to the guy making the parts? He stopped because most owners moaned saying "Oh you know it's not original I can't have that and wow 50K for an engine black how dare you" He said most Cords/Dusenburgs have old engines that smoke and overheat but was 100% original at the concourse of elegance. Meanwhile Leno drives up in his.

On one hand, I understand the people who want to keep a true classic 100% original for the sake of it being original, regardless of how bad a design or condition, for the same reason as some don't repair the scars of war patina that a race car accumulated through its racing history.

But on the other hand, a car is only a heap of steel and will deteriorate over time anyway. You might as well rebuild it to a very accurate, functional state, and drive it like it was meant to be driven. It's so much more impressive, and everyone can appreciate a car that drives into shows rather than on the back of a flatbed.
 
That leaves us to the next question: what is an "original state" race car? When it left the factory? When it won it's first race? When it won it's most important race, or when it was retired?

Because there could be some very, very important variation between all possible states of originality.

A few years back, at the Glen, there was a V-8 powered Bugatti Type 35. The thing is, the swap was made in the 40's or 50's, because the car used to race on dirt ovals. How would you restore it? Though question...

http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/1028833,22678/1926-Bugatti-Miller-Type-35_photo.aspx
 
That leaves us to the next question: what is an "original state" race car? When it left the factory? When it won it's first race? When it won it's most important race, or when it was retired?

Because there could be some very, very important variation between all possible states of originality.

A few years back, at the Glen, there was a V-8 powered Bugatti Type 35. The thing is, the swap was made in the 40's or 50's, because the car used to race on dirt ovals. How would you restore it? Though question...

http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/1028833,22678/1926-Bugatti-Miller-Type-35_photo.aspx

If it's running well and the body is ok I'd leave it like that . To restore if I had some money I'd buy a pur sang motor from those guys in Argentina . If I had a lot of money I'd track down an original motor . I'd drive the crap out of it either way


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