Smashed front end / no bumper ???

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SmaartAasSaabr

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OK I want to go to Toronto and drive a car home. It has hit a guardrail, has no bumper, a bent hood, the lights, grille are gone.

I want to grab some lights here, tie-wrap them or however affix them to the car so I can see at night, hit the 401 and come home.

Now... my question...

is it legal to drive a car with no bumper?

The hood closes on the latch properly, it's just bent up a bit. Also the hood opens "the other way" so it is impossible to flip up and hit you. The fenders are fine, and the car drives fine. Radiator holds well, the chassis isn't bent, the tires don't touch anything.

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Ok je veux aller au Toronto et conduire un char jusqu'a ici. Le char est accidentee et n'a plus de pare-chocs, plus de phares / feux de signal, plus de grille et le capot est magane.

Je vais prendre quelques phares et les feux avec moi, les monter sur le char et conduire jusqu'a ici.

Mon question...

est-ce que c'est legale de conduire sans le pare-chocs avant?

Le capot ferme assez bon sur le verrou, et aussi c'est articule a l'avant... le radiateur est ok, le chassis n'est pas touche.
 
And by the way, if its the whole bumper, its VERY illegal.
you're playing around with one of the MAIN life-saving options on the car. I'd hate to see the size of the ticket you'd get from that.

bumper cover wouldnt matter that much.
just put some zip ties in the passenger seat and tell them it happened recently but you need to get back home to fix it.
 
Yeah the whole damn thing, you can walk up and just take out the a/c condenser in about 45 seconds...

Aside from the Toronto-Montreal trip it would be repaired before venturing out again. It also has Quebec registration - so perhaps I could say "yeah just happened and I'm on my way home?"

The car is a Saab 900 Turbo 4-door. Very rare the 4-door turbo. At the price, I can't argue...

I could just grab a u-haul dolly too. But then I have to take my truck and I'm stuck at 100km/h the whole way IF the tranny doesn't shit on me. By driving it back (we'd be in 2 cars) I can make time on the way in and the way out just drive with the flow of traffic pretty much.

What kind of serious accident could you possibly have on a limited-access expressway?

I have bumpers lying around also, it just seems like a real PITA to remove one and install it on the car, I don't know how the brackets are or anything. Maybe I could chain it together? Or maybe just use a 2x8 piece of wood like on Cooter's truck in the Dukes of Hazzard or something.
 
lol look outside and tell me an accident isnt possible :D
Seriously, the law is all about "what if". Its not really that you'll get in an accident, but the fact that you could get a massive fine. We're talking about another province as well so it could easily be that much more severe, Quebec has got to have the slackest laws when coming to cars.


and a 4 door turbo 900?
wow..
I think i still have a front bumper from my '87 9000 turbo if that helps at all :D

I love the fact you're into old Saabs, not many people are :D
 
MyRidzPhucked said:
lol look outside and tell me an accident isnt possible :D
Seriously, the law is all about "what if". Its not really that you'll get in an accident, but the fact that you could get a massive fine. We're talking about another province as well so it could easily be that much more severe, Quebec has got to have the slackest laws when coming to cars.


and a 4 door turbo 900?
wow..
I think i still have a front bumper from my '87 9000 turbo if that helps at all :D

I love the fact you're into old Saabs, not many people are :D

True... that is really the only thing I worry about. 900's are very safe cars anyway :D

Worse would be if the OPP takes my plate, makes me tow it with their "contractor" for something like $300 towing fee and charges me some stupid fine and leaves me on the side of the road (well... I'd just go back with the other car...)

Anyway this would be 900 #6 for me, and I probably have a #7 coming soon as well.
 
lol you're like me and my talons :D

It depends where you're coming from.. basically it cost me 180$ from here to kirkland, which is about 35 km's.
PLUS the fines which would NOT be pleasant.
plus you still have to register the car afterwards if you're panning on driving it..

I dont think its worth it, if anything, take a scrap bumper and tie that on for looks lol
 
MyRidzPhucked said:
lol you're like me and my talons :D

It depends where you're coming from.. basically it cost me 180$ from here to kirkland, which is about 35 km's.
PLUS the fines which would NOT be pleasant.
plus you still have to register the car afterwards if you're panning on driving it..

I dont think its worth it, if anything, take a scrap bumper and tie that on for looks lol


wow who towed you?

I towed my neon from dorval to my place for 60$
 
thats because he knew you were driving a neon and you'd be back the next week anyways.
Maybe he liked the colour purple lol
I dunno


I got towed off the side of the highway, so it was a manditory, gonna-screw-you-good towing. when the 240 died coming home when I JUST bought it.
 
SmaartAasSaabr said:
True... that is really the only thing I worry about. 900's are very safe cars anyway :D

Worse would be if the OPP takes my plate, makes me tow it with their "contractor" for something like $300 towing fee and charges me some stupid fine and leaves me on the side of the road (well... I'd just go back with the other car...)

Anyway this would be 900 #6 for me, and I probably have a #7 coming soon as well.


If you are buying from ONT just go to a licence burreau and get a temp sticker(goes on front right of windscreen). I know you can get one with a QC drivers liscence because I went with a classmate to buy a 240 on ottawa. I belive the fee you pay gives you the right to drive and insurance(not 100% sure) for a few days.
 
If the car has no bumper at all (reinforcement gone...) it's not legal. Bumper cover is o.k. but you might get bothered anyways. I wouldn't risk it if I were you.
 
MyRidzPhucked said:
lol you're like me and my talons :D

It depends where you're coming from.. basically it cost me 180$ from here to kirkland, which is about 35 km's.
PLUS the fines which would NOT be pleasant.
plus you still have to register the car afterwards if you're panning on driving it..

I dont think its worth it, if anything, take a scrap bumper and tie that on for looks lol

Hmm... $180 for 35km, and I need to go... 600 km :yikes: I'm not paying $3100 for towing...

Called U-haul in TO, for $80 they give me the dolly and I drop it off in Mtl. I can get one for like $54 here if I bring it back here but then I need to burn more gas lugging the thing there... plus an unloaded tow dolly bounces all over the place

I called my friend who owns it, he said "no way you are driving it", so I guess that is that.

Even though the car is in Ontario, the paperwork is all QC, and it isn't VGA'ed or anything. So all I really need to do is chain the rad support to a tree and try to pull it forward and make it right again.
 
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