Swiss Ferrari owners meeting in Mugello.

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So go to Europe next Summer. There are literally tons of trackdays where you can rent one, especially in England and not too expensive. I think you don't even have to be 25 or 21 to do that.
 
Snowy_Beast said:
I'm not a car enthusiasm, I'm a car fanatic. I'd love to track Ferraris just one day... even at the cost of smelling cows all year.
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If you are such a fanatic you don't have to smell cows all year but just bring your car to one of the tracks around here. You will have a lot more fun than masturbating over someone else's Ferrari. Not that Ferraris are not nice, they are pretty cool but doing it yourself even without a Ferrari is a lot better.
 
It's better to go track not with your own car. Actually, I read now there is a company at the Nurburgring that rents out cars (mildly prepped BMs, Renaults and 350Z) to drive on the 'Ring.
 
MstrBlstr said:
If you are such a fanatic you don't have to smell cows all year but just bring your car to one of the tracks around here.
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Exactly! According to your sig, you've got yourself an S2000. So what's the problem :dunno: Take that b1tch to the track!

RussianM3_dude said:
It's better to go track not with your own car.
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I know that this is a matter of opinion, but I strongly disagree. I would much rather track my own BMW, Porsche, S2000, etc. than someone else's Ferrari.

I prefer to drive my own cars at the track. That way, I can set them up exactly how I like them, I know exactly how they behave at the limit, and I know that they've been maintained properly.

The only argument against driving your own car is the wear-and-tear (tires, brakes, wheel bearings, etc.). But these are cars...not heirlooms. They're supposed to wear out. Just replace the worn parts. No big deal.

Emre
 
RussianM3_dude said:
It's better to go track not with your own car. Actually, I read now there is a company at the Nurburgring that rents out cars (mildly prepped BMs, Renaults and 350Z) to drive on the 'Ring.
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If the car is prepared right.
Otherwise it's boring.
A stock F430 is not really a track car. It's a very amazing street car.

And I would consider renting a track car now because I have some idea of what to do with it. Renting a race prepared car by a noob is a good way to pay their very high deductible when you stuff it into the wall.

I know about the 'ring rental places. Some of them are excellent. But do you think average MR posters can afford to do that?
I would rent from those places because shipping my car is just silly. But if I lived there I would drive my car there.

The local events that provide cars (BMW Driver training, Trioomph, Ferrari Driving Experience, Jim Russell) are very expensive when compared to driving your own car, especially at the beginner level. $8200 US for 2 days of driving a Ferrari at Tremblant better include blowjobs on demand from very attractive women or it's a waste of money.
 
MstrBlstr said:
If you are such a fanatic you don't have to smell cows all year but just bring your car to one of the tracks around here. You will have a lot more fun than masturbating over someone else's Ferrari. Not that Ferraris are not nice, they are pretty cool but doing it yourself even without a Ferrari is a lot better.
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But I am... I've registered last month to Trac N Racing.
But I would much rather drive/track someone else Ferrari than my car. Even if I know I'll have a blast lapping mine.
 
LanEvo said:
Exactly! According to your sig, you've got yourself an S2000. So what's the problem :dunno: Take that b1tch to the track!

I know that this is a matter of opinion, but I strongly disagree. I would much rather track my own BMW, Porsche, S2000, etc. than someone else's Ferrari.

I prefer to drive my own cars at the track. That way, I can set them up exactly how I like them, I know exactly how they behave at the limit, and I know that they've been maintained properly.

The only argument against driving your own car is the wear-and-tear (tires, brakes, wheel bearings, etc.). But these are cars...not heirlooms. They're supposed to wear out. Just replace the worn parts. No big deal.

Emre
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I don't think it came out right. I meant to say not with your daily driver. Of course you want to have your own prepped track day car. However if you don't, it is better to rent a car you won't feel bad about driving hard.
 
MstrBlstr said:
If the car is prepared right.
Otherwise it's boring.
A stock F430 is not really a track car. It's a very amazing street car.

And I would consider renting a track car now because I have some idea of what to do with it. Renting a race prepared car by a noob is a good way to pay their very high deductible when you stuff it into the wall.

I know about the 'ring rental places. Some of them are excellent. But do you think average MR posters can afford to do that?
I would rent from those places because shipping my car is just silly. But if I lived there I would drive my car there.

The local events that provide cars (BMW Driver training, Trioomph, Ferrari Driving Experience, Jim Russell) are very expensive when compared to driving your own car, especially at the beginner level. $8200 US for 2 days of driving a Ferrari at Tremblant better include blowjobs on demand from very attractive women or it's a waste of money.
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That depends on how much money you have in the first place. For many people, the 70,000$ for all 4 Levels of Ferrari driving courses is just peanuts, let alone 12,000 for Level 1. Especially when it saves you the hassle, of reserving hotels, getting food and putting wear and tear on your pride and joy. Also, that is the only chance to drive on the Fiorano race track, unless you are a Ferrari race car driver.
 
RussianM3_dude said:
you won't feel bad about driving hard.
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In Canada I feel bad about driving so slow! The track is the only place where you can really drive a car with little worries and have some real fun. Way too many issues and risks driving fast on the streets in Quebec. I wish I could take my daily driver every weekend to the track to put it through its paces. Unless you have a collectible that you would like to keep as a giant paperweight, the track is the ONLY sensible place to have fun with a car here. With a track like tremblant 1hour away (some people drive 12+ hours to come here), it's just makes no sense to me not to go there if you have a car worth enjoying. The day I have a Ferrari, I'll be at tremblant trying to blow it up (and I'll have some skill to actually enjoy it).

HPDEs are very mild. There was a F430 a few events ago at tremblant. He was very slow and was giving point-bys to pretty much everyeone, I'm sure he had more fun than he would ever have on the street, and the exercise probably did the car good.
 
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RussianM3_dude said:
That depends on how much money you have in the first place. For many people, the 70,000$ for all 4 Levels of Ferrari driving courses is just peanuts, let alone 12,000 for Level 1. Especially when it saves you the hassle, of reserving hotels, getting food and putting wear and tear on your pride and joy. Also, that is the only chance to drive on the Fiorano race track, unless you are a Ferrari race car driver.
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If 70,000 for those schools is peanuts then driving your own car should be fine, too.

Remember, they are just cars even if they have little horsies on them.

What you are saying may be nice in theory but all it does is it gives an excuse why not to go.

Yes, I'd like to have a race team with a couple race cars (GT3 RSR and M3 GTR, please), a great mechanic, a shock absorber specialist, a racing coach and the dude who polishes my wheels. Also some umbrela girls to complete the look. But failing that just showing up to the track is more that good enough.
 
RussianM3_dude said:
Also, that is the only chance to drive on the Fiorano race track, unless you are a Ferrari race car driver.
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I hope it's not what they tell you at those course, because that's false. Some Italian clubs (maserati, alfa, lancia, fiat...) get to do track events at Fiorano for a couple hundred euros. Not sure about other clubs...

I know, I have an invitation right in front of me :D
track day at Fiorano for 250euro, it was the 27 of july this year... unfortunately, I was in Canada, the good news is I had a tremblant event the next week.
 
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MstrBlstr said:
If 70,000 for those schools is peanuts then driving your own car should be fine, too.

Remember, they are just cars even if they have little horsies on them.

What you are saying may be nice in theory but all it does is it gives an excuse why not to go.

Yes, I'd like to have a race team with a couple race cars (GT3 RSR and M3 GTR, please), a great mechanic, a shock absorber specialist, a racing coach and the dude who polishes my wheels. Also some umbrela girls to complete the look. But failing that just showing up to the track is more that good enough.
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Well, the Ferraris are a bit fragile and expensive to survice. I would keep the Ferrari for the street and have something else for the track. Also, if you are going to track your Ferrari, you might as well equip it with a roll cage, sport seats, things that would reduce the enjoyment in everyday driving. I am just not big on Jack of all Trades.
 
As a side note, I met a dude who came to Fiorane with a 599, he said he was actually going to come with a 430, but it was so weakened by constant tracking that it was in for some serious repairs. Another guy came in an Alfa Romeo because he wrote off his 430 in a track accident. I mean sure, if you have THAT much money, it's not a problem. But not all Ferrari wners can just write off a new Ferrari and not bat an eyelid.
 
RussianM3_dude said:
As a side note, I met a dude who came to Fiorane with a 599, he said he was actually going to come with a 430, but it was so weakened by constant tracking that it was in for some serious repairs.
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That's why serious drivers avoid Ferraris on the track. The guys who are serious about this stuff stick to cars that are engineered to be bulletproof under track conditions. That's why variants of the GT3 (GT3 RS, GT3 RSR, and GT3 Cup) are still the kings among track toys for the wealthy.

EDITED TO ADD: Before the Ferrari fan boys start screaming at me and calling me a hater, one of my closest friends is the Ferrari distributor for the Middle East. He and a bunch of my buddies run exotic Ferraris (355 Challenge coupes, F360 CSs, F430 Challenges, even an F50). All these guys are racers and/or rally drivers. None of them track their Ferraris...even the guy that owns the dealerships.

They all track Porsches, BMW's, or rally specials (Evos, Escort RS Cosworths, etc). Believe me, it's certainly NOT because they can't afford to run their Ferraris! They just find they're too slow (relatively speaking), too unreliable, and too much of a PITA to maintain. They enjoy their Ferraris on the street (where they do a good job attracting a certain class of women) and they enjoy their Porsches on the track.

Emre
 
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