Mazdaspeed3 vs GTR

mrdouble99

mrdouble99

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le hate level est un peu bas sur MR c'est temps si, alors pourquoi pas l'alimenter un peu.

Un gars sur mazdaspeedforum

450whp mazdaspeed3

GT-R has Cobb intakes, Cobb catted Y pipe, Access Port, and Go Fast BPV's

Je pense que j'ai vu un peu de rouille tomber sur un des vids :)



 
Lol la speed clanche avant meme que la gtr ait remarquer qui voulait courser ...
Dans le premier video.
 
Impressionant oui, sauf que sur circuit, pas sûr que la MS3 va avoir un quelconque avantage lol!

...il aurait été mieux avec une Neon/Caliber SRT-4 ou une Spec-V. ;)

Ou la Tercel de Broody.
 
Honnetement jprefere cruiser en GTR qu'une mazdaspeed 3 600hp + lol. Mais c'est impressionant quand meme de voir une ms3 battre une gtr ... Mais quand on y pense, bcp de civic / sti / evo est capable de faire la meme chose !! Juste a booster plus. Pas difficile...
 
Jeremi01 said:
Mazda c'est du Ford. C'est dla marde.
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Tiens, un autre Grand Connaisseur de MTLRacing.

Lis-donc ca, même si tu le feras pas parce c'est f*cking trop long man!:


Partnership with Ford Motor CompanyFrom 1979 to 2010, Mazda had a partnership with the Ford Motor Company, who acquired a 7% stake in 1979 and by 1996, owned 33.3% of Mazda. Under the administration of Alan Mulally, Ford gradually divested its stake in Mazda from 2008 to 2010, with Ford currently holding 3% of Mazda stock and severing production as well as development ties.

Mazda's financial difficulties during the 1960s resulted in a new corporate investor, Ford Motor Company. Starting in 1979 with a 7-percent financial stake, Ford began a partnership with Mazda resulting in various joint projects. During the 1980s, Ford gained another 20-percent financial stake. These included large and small efforts in all areas of the automotive landscape — most notably in the realm of pickup trucks (such as the Mazda B-Series, which spawned a Ford Courier variant in North America in 1972) and smaller cars. For instance, Mazda's Familia platform was used for Ford models like the Laser and Escort, while the Capella architecture found its way into Ford's Telstar sedan and Probe sports models. In 2002 Ford gained an extra 5-percent financial stake.

The Probe was built in a new Mazda assembly plant in Flat Rock, Michigan along with the mainstream 626 sedan (the North American version of the Capella) and a companion Mazda MX-6 sports coupe. (The plant is now a Ford-Mazda joint venture known as AutoAlliance International.) Ford has also lent Mazda some of its capacity when needed: the Mazda 121 sold in Europe and South Africa was, for a time, a variant of the Ford Fiesta built in plants in Europe and South Africa. Mazda has also made an effort in the past to sell some of Ford's cars in Japan, mainly through its Autorama dealer group.

Mazda also helped Ford develop the 1991 Explorer, which Mazda sold as the 2-door only Mazda Navajo from 1991 through 1994. Ironically, Mazda's version was unsuccessful, while the Ford (available from the start as a 4-door or 2-door model) instantly became the best selling sport-utility vehicle in the United States and kept that title for over a decade. Mazda has used Ford's Ranger pickup as the basis for its North American–market B-Series trucks, starting in 1994 and continuing through 2010, when Mazda discontinued importing its B-Series trucks to North America, due to costs associated with the Chicken Tax.[6]


Mazda MilleniaFollowing its long-held fascination with alternative engine technology, Mazda introduced the first Miller cycle engine for automotive use in the Millenia luxury sedan of 1995. Though the Millenia (and its Miller-type V6 engine) were discontinued in 2002, the company has recently introduced a much smaller Miller-cycle four-cylinder engine for use in itsDemio starting in 2008. As with its leadership in Wankel technology, Mazda remains (so far) the only automaker to have used a Miller-cycle engine in the automotive realm.


Mazda 3Further financial difficulties at Mazda during the 1990s (partly caused by losses related to the 1997 Asian financial crisis) caused Ford to increase its stake to a 33.4-percent controlling interest in May 1996. In June 1996, Henry Wallace was appointed President, and he set about restructuring Mazda and setting it on a new strategic direction. He laid out a new direction for the brand including the design of the present Mazda marque; he laid out a new product plan to achieve synergies with Ford, and he launched Mazda's digital innovation program to speed up the development of new products. At the same time, he started taking control of overseas distributors, rationalized dealerships and manufacturing facilities, and driving much needed efficiencies and cost reductions in Mazda's operations. Much of his early work put Mazda back into profitability and laid the foundations for future success. Wallace was succeeded by James Miller in November 1997, followed in December 1999 by Ford executive Mark Fields, who has been credited with expanding Mazda's new product lineup and leading the turnaround during the early 2000s. Ford's increased influence during the 1990s allowed Mazda to claim another distinction in history, having maintained the first foreign-born head of a Japanese car company, Henry Wallace.

Amidst the world financial crisis in the fall of 2008, reports emerged that Ford was contemplating a sale of its stake in Mazda as a way of streamlining its asset base.[7] BusinessWeek explained the alliance between Ford and Mazda has been a very successful one, with Mazda saving perhaps $90 million a year in development costs and Ford "several times" that, and that a sale of its stake in Mazda would be a desperate measure.[8] On November 18, 2008, Ford announced that it would be selling a 20% stake in Mazda, bringing its stake to 13.4%, and surrendering control of the company.[9][10] The following day, Mazda announced that, as part of the deal, it was buying back 6.8% of its shares from Ford. It was also reported that Hisakazu Imaki would be stepping down as chief executive, to be replaced by Takashi Yamanouchi.[11] On November 18, 2010, Ford reduced its stake further to 3%, citing the reduction of ownership would allow greater flexibility to pursue growth in emerging markets. Ford and Mazda remain strategic partners through joint ventures and exchanges of technological information.[


Pour t'aider, même si tes arguments solides prouvent que tu est probablement un génie détenteurs de plusieurs Maîtrises et Bacs, actuellement Ford possède 3.6% de Mazda et a, au plus possédé 33.3% de Mazda à une époque. Comme tu es probablement un financier aguéri à juger par tes posts ici, même à 33.3%, les parts de Ford n'ont pas été suffisantes pour être actionnaire majoritaire et, pour te paraphraser, ''être'' Mazda.

Mais comme ils s'aident (ils s'aident tous maintenant), c'est de la marde. C'est vrai, tes arguments, sont très convaincants. Mazda + Ford = Marde. So simple, thanks man!
 
bah je trouve qu un pull sur l autoroute ... ça veut dire que ça montre lequel avance le plus des deux... :p


Si ta TL est slow sur l autoroute c est pas un argument valable.
 
Les 2 char c'est des chum

le speed3 rentre 11.9 et le GTR a rentrer 12.2 avec un 60' de 2.2

c'est clair que le GTR si il serait bien driver rentrerait dans le 11 facile.

Il y a 2 gars qui vont a Icar avec leur GTR stock et il rentre 11.2 ...
 
Jeremi01 said:
Mazda c'est du Ford. C'est dla marde.
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*td**bsflag*

Absolument rien d`intéressant la dedans.... Un Volks ou Honda peut faire de meme avec un peu de boost... Mais au prix que il va avoir mis pour bosster son Civic a 450hp, j`aurais longtemps acheter un char stock avec 450hp :)
 
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