This is how Israel warns civilians before bombarding.

Knowledge not propaganda. Yeah well knowledge and propaganda go hand in hand. I know plenty of guys on the ground there right now, even Muslim soldiers although that may surprise you. Every Israelite serves in the armed forces soo... ain't a big surprise
I agree abut the religious degenerates although i think Hamas members are more interested in the foreign aid money they'll receive from this and Israel in tourism and security. Security is pretty word for being "in the business of war

Killing Is My Business... And Business Is Good!
 
Killing Is My Business... And Business Is Good!

Well if that is the case, Israel is way behind every other middle eastern country.

You're avoiding my question from before.

You said Israel intentionally targets civilians.

Than explain this: Israel is regarded as having one of the best trained most advanced armies in the world. If they were targeting civilians, why in over 1000 strikes (each one capable of leveling a house) in one of the top 5 most densely populated areas in the world have they only managed to kill 160-180 civilians? While Syria's shit army can killed that many in 1 strike in a sparsely populated area.

Can you explain that?
 
And i said : "mathematically, what makes you think they are targeting civilians? 1000 + strikes and under 200 casualties.."

And you didnt answer.

I honestly think your brain dead.. the dead outnumber 200 and there are over 1700 people with injuries.. some very serious (amputations)

Since you wont believe Reuters or RT or Aljazeera.. here's BTSELEM as a source:
http://www.btselem.org/gaza_strip/20140717_gaza_bombing_preliminary_data

Its as if history doesnt learn.. jews were treated like savages during the holocaust and now instead of LEARNING they are forcing Palestinians to unimaginable crueltys.

And here's a list of all the people murdered (let me guess you'll say this is a propaganda piece by Hamas Blah blah) Too bad for the Israeli army.. public perception is changing.


1. Mohammed Shaaban, 24, killed in Gaza.

2. Amjad Shaaban, 30, killed in Gaza.

3. Khader al-Bashiliki, 45, killed in Gaza.

4. Rashad Yassin, 27, killed in the Nusseirat refugee camp.

5. Mohammed Ayman Ashour, 15, killed in Khan Younis.

6. Riad Mohammed Kawareh, 50, killed in Khan Younis.

7. Bakr Mohammed Judeh, 22, killed in Khan Younis.

8. Ammar Mohammed Judeh, 26, killed in Khan Younis.

9. Hussein Yousef Kawareh, 13, killed in Khan Younis.

10. Mohammed Ibrahim kawareh, 50, killed in Khan Younis.

11. Mohammed Aahed Habib, 22, killed in Gaza.

12. Ahmed Moussa Habib, 16, killed in Gaza.

13. Saqr Ayesh al-Ajuli, 22, killed in Jabalia.

14. Ahmed Nael Mahdi, 16, killed in Gaza.

15. Basil Salem Kawareh, 10, killed in Khan Younis.

16. Hafez Mohammed Hamad, 30, Islamic Jihad commander, killed in Beit Hanoun.

17. Ibrahim Mohammed Hamad, 26 killed in Beit Hanoun.

18. Mahdi Mohammed Hamad, 46 killed in Beit Hanoun.

19. Fawziya Khalil Hamad, 62, killed in Beit Hanoun.

20. Dunya Mahdi Hamad, 16, killed in Beit Hanoun.

21. Suha Hamad, 25, killed in Beit Hanoun.

22. Suleiman Salman Abu Sowaween, 22, killed in Deir al-Balah.

23. Siraj Ayad Abdelal, 8, killed in Khan Younis.

24. Abdel Hadi Jumaa al-Sufi, 24.

25. Rashid al-Kafarneh, 30, killed in Beit Hanoun.

26. Nayfeh Farajallah, 80,

27. Abdel Nasser Abu Kweik, 60, killed in Beit Hanoun.

28. Khaled Abu Kweik, 31, killed in Beit Hanoun.

29. Mohammed Arif, 13, killed in Gaza.

30. Mohammed Malake, 1½, killed in Gaza.

31. Hanaa Malake, 27, killed in Gaza.

32. Hatem Abu Salem, unreported age

33. Mohammed Khaled al-Nimre, 22, killed in Gaza.

34. Sahar Hamdan al-Masri, 40, killed in Beit Hanoun.

35. Mohammed Ibrahim al-Masri, 14, killed in Beit Hanoun.

36. Mohammed Khalaf al-Nawasra, 4, killed in al-Maghazi.

37. Nidal Khalaf al-Nawasra, 5, killed in al-Maghazi.

38. Aicha Najm, 20, killed in al-Maghazi.

39. Salah Awad al-Nawasra, 6, killed in al-Maghazi.

40. Mahmoud Nahed al-Nawasra, unreported age.

41. Amal Yousef Abdel Ghafour, 27, killed in Khan Younis.

42. Raneem Judeh Abdel Ghafour, 1½, killed in Khan Younis.

43. Ibrahim Daoud al-Balaawi, 24, killed in Rafah.

44. Abdel Rahman Jamal al-Zamli, 22, killed in Rafah.

45. Ibrahim Ahmed Abdeen, 42, killed in Rafah.

46. Mustafa Abu Murr, 20, killed in Rafah.

47. Khaled Abu Murr, 23, killed in Rafah.

48. Mazen Faraj al-Jarba, 30, killed in Deir al-Balah.

49. Marwan Isleem, 27, killed in Deir al-Balah.

50. Hani Saleh Hamad, 57, killed in Beit Hanoun.

51. Ibrahim Hamad, 20, killed in Beit Hanoun.

52. Salima Hassan Maslam al-Arja, 60.

53. Mariam Atiah Mohammed al-Arja, 11.

54. Hamid Shihab, 37, killed in Gaza.

55. Ibrahim Khalil Qanan, 24, killed in Khan Younis.

56. Mohammed Khalil Qanan, 26, killed in Khan Younis.

57. Suleiman al-Astal, 55, killed in Khan Younis.

58. Hamdi Badie Sawali, 33, killed in Khan Younis.

59. Mohammed al-Akkad, 24, killed in Khan Younis.

60. Ahmed Sawali, 28, killed in Khan Younis.

61. Raed Shalat, 37.

62. Mahmoud Lutfi al-Hajj, 58, killed in Khan Younis.

63. Asmaa Mahmoud al-Hajj, 22, killed in Khan Younis.

64. Tarik Saad al-Hajj, 18, killed in Khan Younis.

65. Saad Mahmoud al-Hajj, 17, killed in Khan Younis.

66. Najlaa Mahmoud al-Hajj, 29, killed in Khan Younis.

67. Fatima al-Hajj, 12, killed in Khan Younis.

68. Omar al-Hajj, 20, killed in Khan Younis.

69. Basima Abdel Fattah al-Hajj, 57, killed in Khan Younis.

70. Ahmed Salim al-Astal, 24, killed in Khan Younis.

71. Moussa Mohammed al-Astal, 50, killed in Khan Younis.

72. Raed al-Zawarea, 33, killed in Khan Younis.

73. Bahaa Abu al-Leil, 35, Islamic Jihad member, killed in Gaza.

74.Salem Qandil, 27, Islamic Jihad member, killed in Gaza.

75. Amer al-Fayyoumi, 30, Islamic Jihad member, killed in Gaza.

76. Abdallah Ramadan Abu Ghazal, 5, killed in Beit Hanoun.

77. Islamel Hassan Abu Jamaa, 19, killed in Khan Younis.

78. Mohammed Ehsan Farwane, 18, killed in Khan Younis.

79. Mahmoud Talee Wallud, 26, Islamic Jihad member, killed in Jabalia.

80. Hazem Ibrahim Baaloushe, 30, Islamic Jihad member, killed in a civilian car in Jabalia.

81. Udai Rafik al-Sultan, 27, killed in Jabalia.

82. Hassan Awda Abu Jamaa, 75, killed in Khan Younis.

83. Yasmin Mohammed al-Mutwak, 4, killed in Beit Hanoun.

84. Ahmed Zaher Hamdan, 24, killed in Beit Hanoun.

85. Mohammed Kamal al-Kahlout, 25, killed in Jabalia.

86. Sami Andan Shaldan, 25, killed in Gaza.

87. Jumaa Atiah Shallouf, 25, killed in Rafah.

88. Bassam Abdel Rahman Khattab, 6, killed in Deir al-Balah.

89. Abdellah Mustafa Abu Mahrouk, 22, killed in Deir al-Balah.

90. Anas Rizk Abu al-Qas, 33 killed in Gaza.

91. Nour Marwan al-Najdi, 10, killed in Rafah.

92. Mohammed Mounir Ashour, 26, killed in Rafah.

93. Ghalia Deeb Jaber Ghanem, 57, killed in Rafah.

94. Wissam Abdel Razek Hassan Ghannam, 31, killed in Rafah.

95. Mahmoud Razek Hassan Ghannam, 28, Islamic Jihad member, killed in Rafah.

96. Kifah Shahadeh Deeb Ghannam, 33, killed in Rafah.

97. Raed Hani Abu Hani, 31, killed in Rafah.

98. Shahraman Ismaeil Abu al-Qas, 42, killed in Al-Breij.

99. Mazen Mustafa Aslan, 63, killed in Al-Breij.

100. Mohammed Rabih Abu Humeidan, 65, killed in northern Gaza.

101. Shahd al-Qreinawi, 7, killed in Al-Breij.

102. Abdel Halim Abdel Moeti, 54.

103. Hussein al-Mamlouk, 47, killed in Gaza.

104. Saber Sukkar, 80, killed in Gaza.

105. Nasser Mohammed Sammame, 49, killed in Gaza.

106. Rami Abu Musaed, 23, killed in Deir al-Balah.

107. Mohammed al-Sumeiri, 24, killed in Deir al-Balah.

108. Husam Eddine al-Razayne, 39, killed in Jabalia.

109. Anas Youssef Qandil, 17, killed in Jabalia.

110. Abdel Rahim Saleh al-Khatib, 38, killed in Jabalia.

111. Youssef Mohammed Qandil, 33, killed in Jabalia.

112. Mohammed Idris Abu Sanena, 20, killed in Jabalia.

113. Hala Weshahi, 31, killed in the disabled centre in Jabalia.

114. Suha Abu Saada, 38, killed in the disabled centre in Jabalia.

115. Ali Nabil Basal, 32, killed in Gaza.

116. Mohammed Bassem al-Halabi, 28, killed in Gaza.

117. Mohammed al-Suweiti, 20, killed in Gaza.

118. Ibrahim Nabil Hamade, 30, killed in Gaza.

119. Hassan Ahmed Abu Ghoush, 24, killed in Gaza.

120. Ahmed Mazen al-Balawi, 26, killed in Gaza.

121. Rateb Sobhi Youssuf al-Saifi, 22, killed in Al-Zaitoun.

122. Azmi Mahmoud Taha Obeid, 51, killed in shelling on Radwan street.

123. Nidal Mohammed Ibrahim Abu al-Malsh, 22, killed in shelling on Radwan street.

124. Suleiman Saeed Younis Obeid, 56, killed in shelling on Radwan street.

125. Ghassan Ahmed al-Masri, 25, killed in shelling on Radwan street.

126. Mustafa Mohammed Taha Anabe, 58, killed in shelling on Radwan street.

127. Rifaat Yousef Amer, 36, killed in Gaza.

128. Mohamed Idriss Abo Sowaylim, 20, killed in Jabalia.

129. Fadi Yaqoub Sukar, 25, killed in Gaza.

130. Qassim Jabr Adwan Ouda, 16, killed Khan Younis.

131. Mohammad Ahmed Bassal, 19, killed in Gaza.

132. Muhannad Yousuf Daheir, 23, killed in Rafah.

133. Mahmoud Abdallah Sharahta al-Shammal, 53.

134. Shadi Mohammed Zaareb, 21, killed in Rafah.

135. Imad Bassam Zaareb, 21, killed in Rafah.

136. Nahed Naeem al-Batesh, 41, killed in Gaza.

137. Bahaa Majed al-Batesh, 28, killed in Gaza.

138. Qusai Issam al-Batesh, 12, killed in Gaza.

139. Aziza Yousuf al-Batesh, 59, killed in Gaza.

140. Mohammed Issam al-Batesh, 17, killed in Gaza.

141. Ahmed Naaman al-Batesh, 27, killed in Gaza.

142. Yahia Alaa al-Batesh, 18, killed in Gaza.

143. Jalal Majed al-Batesh, 26, killed in Gaza.

144. Mahmoud Majed al-Batesh, 22, killed in Gaza.

145. Marwa Majed al-Batesh, 25, killed in Gaza.

146. Majid Sobhi al-Batesh, unkown age, killed in Gaza.

147. Khaled Majed al-Batesh, 20, killed in Gaza.

148. Ibrahim Majed al-Batesh, 18, killed in Gaza.

149. Manar Majed al-Batesh, 13, killed in Gaza.

150. Amal Hassan al-Batesh, 49, killed in Gaza.

151. Anas Alaa al-Batesh, 10, killed in Gaza.

152. Qusai Alaa al-Batesh, unknown age, killed in Gaza.

153. Rami Abu Shanab, 25, killed in Deir al-Balah.

154. Khawla al-Hawajri, 25, killed in Nuseirat.

155. Mohammed Ghazi Arif, 35, killed in Gaza.

156. Ghazi Mustafa Arif, 62, killed in Gaza.

157. Ahmed Yousef Dalloul, 47, killed in Gaza.

158. Hijazia Hamed al-Hilou, 80, killed in Gaza.

159. Muayed al-Aaraj, 3, killed in Khan Younis.

160. Fawziya Abdelal, 73, killed in Gaza.

161. Haitham Ashraf Zaareb, 21, killed in Rafah.

162. Laila Hassan al-Awdat al-Maghazi, 41.

163. Hussam Ibrahim al-Najjar, 14.

164. Ruwaida Abu Harb, 30.

165. Izzedine Bulbul, 25, killed in Gaza.

166. Hussein Abdel Qader Muheisen, 19, killed in Gaza.

167. Qassem Talal Hamdan, 23, killed in Beit Hanoun.

168. Maher Thabet Abu Mur, 24, killed in East Rafah.

169. Mohammed Salem Abu Breis, 65, killed in east Deir al-Balah.

170. Saddam Mousa Moammar, 23, killed in east Deir al-Balah.

171. Moussa Shahda Moammar, 60, killed in east Deir al-Balah.

172. Hanadi Hamdi Moammar, 27, killed in east Deir al-Balah.

173. Adham Mohammed Abdel-Fatah Abdelal, 25, killed in Gaza.

174. Hamid Suleiman Abu al-Araj, 60, killed in Deir al-Balah.

175. Abdallah Mahmoud Baraka, 24, killed in Khan Younis.

176. Tamer Salam Qudeih, 37, killed in Khan Younis.

177. Ziad Maher al-Najjar, 17, killed in Khan Younis.

178. Ziad Salem al-Shawi, 25, killed in Rafah.

179. Mohammed Yassir Hamdan, 24, killed in Gaza.

180. Mohammed Shakib al-Agha, 22, killed in Khan Younis.

181. Mohammed Younis. Abu Youssef, 25, killed in Khan Younis.

182. Sara Omar Sheikh al-Eid, 4, killed in Rafah.

183. Omar Ahmed Sheikh al-Eid, 24, killed in Rafah.

184. Jihad Ahmed Sheikh al-Eid, 48, killed in Rafah.

185. Kamal Atef Yousuf Abu Taha, 16, killed in Khan Younis.

186. Ismael Nabil Ahmed Abu Hatab, 21, killed in Khan Younis.

187. Ahmed Younis. Abu Youssef, 28, killed in Khan Younis.

188. Bushra Khalil Zaareb, 53, killed in East Rafah.

189. Atwa Umeir al-Ammour, 58, killed in east Khan Younis.

190. Ismael Salim al-Najjar, 46, killed in Khan Younis.

191. Mohammed Ahmed Ibrahim al-Najjar, 49, killed in Khan Younis.

192. Suleiman Abu Louli, 33, killed in Khan Younis.

193. Sobhi Abdel Hamid Mousa, 77, killed in Khan Younis.

194. Ismael Fattouh, 24, killed in Gaza.

195. Saleh Saeed Dahleez, 20, killed in Rafah.

196. Yassir Eid al-Mahmoum, 18, killed in Rafah.

197. Khalil al-Ashafi, 66, killed in Hajar al-Deek.

198. Mohammed Abdallah al-Rahuk, 23, killed in Rafah.

199. Mohammed Ismael Abu Ouda, 27, killed in Rafah.

200. Mohammed Sabri al-Debari, 20, killed in Rafah.

201. Abdallah Mohammed Abdallah al-Arjani, 19, killed in Khan Younis.

202. Ahmed Adil Ahmed al-Nawajha, 23, killed in Rafah.

203. Mohammed Tayseer Sharab, 23, killed in Khan Younis.

204. Farid Mahmoud Abu Daqqa, 33, killed in Khan Younis.

205. Ashraf Khalil Abu Shana, 33, killed in Rafah.

206. Khodra Salameh Abu Dakka, 24, killed in Khan Younis

207. Omar Ramadan Hassan Abu Dakka, 24, killed in Khan Younis.

208. Ibrahim Ramadan, 10, killed in Khan Younis.

209. Ahed Bakr, 10, Gaza beach

210. Zakaria Bakr, 10, Gaza beach

211. Mohammed Bakr, 11, Gaza beach

212. Ismail Bakr, 9, Gaza beach

213. Abdel Rahman Khalil al-Sarhi, 37, killed in Gaza

214. Hamza Raed Thari, 6, killed Jabalia

215. Akram Mohamed Abo Amer, 34, Killed in Khan Younis

216. Kamal Mohamed Mohamed Abo Amer, 38, killed in Khan Younis.

217. Hussein Abdel Latif Al Astal, 23, killed in Kahn Younis.

218. Roqayyah Al Astal, 70, killed in Khan Younis.

219, Yasmin Al Astal, 4, killed in Khan Younis.

220. Osama Mahmoud Al Astal, 6, killed in Khan Younis.

221. Hussam Jamal Shamloukh, 23, killed in Sheikh Ajleen in Gaza.

222. Mohamed Kamel Abdel Rahman, 30, killed in Gaza.

222. Mohamed Kamel Abdul-Rahman, 30, Gaza.

223. Mohamed Mahmoud al-Qadim, 22, Deir al-Balah.

224. Zainab Mohamed Saeed al-Abadla, 71, Khan Younis.

225. Mohamed Abdul-Rahman Hasouna, 67, Rafah.

226. Ahmed Raihan, 23, Beit Lahya.

227. Saleh Salem Fayyad, 25, Deir al-Balah.

228. Abdullah Salem al-Akhras, 25, Rafah.

229. Bashir Mohamed Abdul-Aal, 20, Rafah.

230. Mohammed Ziad Ghanem, 25, Rafah.

231. Mohamed Ahmed al-Hut, 41,Rafah.

232. Ismaeil Youssef El Kafarneh, age unknown, Beit Hanoun
 
I honestly think your brain dead.. the dead outnumber 200 and there are over 1700 people with injuries.. some very serious (amputations)

Since you wont believe Reuters or RT or Aljazeera.. here's BTSELEM as a source:
http://www.btselem.org/gaza_strip/20140717_gaza_bombing_preliminary_data

You think i'm brain dead? You know how stupid you sound to anyone who has any knowledge of armaments, warfare or history?

It is quite literally a miracle that more people havent been injured or killed in that environment with that many strikes. Keep in mind 180 of Hamas's rockets have landed in their own city. Im sure you didn't know that though.

If Israel was targeting civilians with all the strike, hey even 8% of the strikes, there would be well over 5000 killed and 50,000 injured. You say 1700 as if thats alot of people injured, i've seen higher casualties and more injuries from a few hours in syria with less than 5 bombs, not 1200+ including 180 from Hamas in an area with 1/10th the density.

And here you are throwing around names like you care. You are only interested in criticizing conflicts that result in dead Arabs if the conflict involves Israel. The proof is in the pudding. You care more about Jews/Israel not having a nation with a powerful army, than you do about hundreds of thousands of dead Arabs. It doesn't surprise me at all to see you and the other regular posters here make guest appearances in all the jewish conspiracy threads of the past.

200,000 dead syrians with millions displaced and nearly a million injured doesn't bother you. Darfur didn't bother you with over 1 million dead. But this does.


You should really do your homework on Hamas, your supporting a bunch of millionaires stealing from their people and sacrificing them for personal gain.. Really, if your so interested, look into it. Maybe visit gaza someday, or the west bank, ask around what people think of Hamas. I have (west bank, not gaza)
 
You should really do your homework on Hamas, your supporting a bunch of millionaires stealing from their people and sacrificing them for personal gain.. Really, if your so interested, look into it. Maybe visit gaza someday, or the west bank, ask around what people think of Hamas. I have (west bank, not gaza)

I don't think anybody here supports Hamas except you, in a twisted way. As justifying constant retaliation and military action against a people is what creates degenerates like the Hamas.

Georges W. Bush once said: "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."

You are implying the same to people trying to not take sides. you are heavily biased.
 
I don't think anybody here supports Hamas except you, in a twisted way. As justifying constant retaliation and military action against a people is what creates degenerates like the Hamas.

Georges W. Bush once said: "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."

You are implying the same to people trying to not take sides. you are heavily biased.

No. People can side with the Palestinian people without siding with Hamas or Israel and there is nothing wrong with that. You're uneducated about their history, charter or practices.. Hamas's first order of business was to persecute christians, destroy existing infrastructure designed to boost their economy, execute their political rivals, and pocket foreign aid money.

Siding with an organization that steals from its people and benefits from their deaths is not okay in my books.
 
Evo - You need to give it up dude, stop trying to defend Israel's actions. No one is condoning terrorism here, rather the debate is on the large loss of civilian life in Gaza.

In essence, what people are realizing is that Gaza has become a large open air prison for Israel to go test out it's newest weapons on civilians whenever they want.

People the world over are tired of it, they are tired of paying for it with their tax dollars in the west and the day when Israel will loose all western support because of its cruel foreign policies is fast coming. Then Israel has no one to blame but themselves.
 
Evo - You need to give it up dude, stop trying to defend Israel's actions. No one is condoning terrorism here, rather the debate is on the large loss of civilian life in Gaza.

In essence, what people are realizing is that Gaza has become a large open air prison for Israel to go test out it's newest weapons on civilians whenever they want.

People the world over are tired of it, they are tired of paying for it with their tax dollars in the west and the day when Israel will loose all western support because of its cruel foreign policies is fast coming. Then Israel has no one to blame but themselves.
Yes the "large" loss of civilian life. But in Syria with close to 150,000 dead, no one bats an eye. Why? is it because your an arab or muslim and don't want to blame your own brothers?
 
I challenge anyone to tell me what other country on earth apart from Israel sends text messages, voice mails and leaflets to civilians warning them that they are going to attack. Who??
 
I honestly think your brain dead.. the dead outnumber 200 and there are over 1700 people with injuries.. some very serious (amputations)

Since you wont believe Reuters or RT or Aljazeera.. here's BTSELEM as a source:
http://www.btselem.org/gaza_strip/20140717_gaza_bombing_preliminary_data

Its as if history doesnt learn.. jews were treated like savages during the holocaust and now instead of LEARNING they are forcing Palestinians to unimaginable crueltys.

And here's a list of all the people murdered (let me guess you'll say this is a propaganda piece by Hamas Blah blah) Too bad for the Israeli army.. public perception is changing.


1. Mohammed Shaaban, 24, killed in Gaza.

2. Amjad Shaaban, 30, killed in Gaza.

3. Khader al-Bashiliki, 45, killed in Gaza.

4. Rashad Yassin, 27, killed in the Nusseirat refugee camp.

5. Mohammed Ayman Ashour, 15, killed in Khan Younis.

6. Riad Mohammed Kawareh, 50, killed in Khan Younis.

7. Bakr Mohammed Judeh, 22, killed in Khan Younis.

8. Ammar Mohammed Judeh, 26, killed in Khan Younis.

9. Hussein Yousef Kawareh, 13, killed in Khan Younis.

10. Mohammed Ibrahim kawareh, 50, killed in Khan Younis.

11. Mohammed Aahed Habib, 22, killed in Gaza.

12. Ahmed Moussa Habib, 16, killed in Gaza.

13. Saqr Ayesh al-Ajuli, 22, killed in Jabalia.

14. Ahmed Nael Mahdi, 16, killed in Gaza.

15. Basil Salem Kawareh, 10, killed in Khan Younis.

16. Hafez Mohammed Hamad, 30, Islamic Jihad commander, killed in Beit Hanoun.

17. Ibrahim Mohammed Hamad, 26 killed in Beit Hanoun.

18. Mahdi Mohammed Hamad, 46 killed in Beit Hanoun.

19. Fawziya Khalil Hamad, 62, killed in Beit Hanoun.

20. Dunya Mahdi Hamad, 16, killed in Beit Hanoun.

21. Suha Hamad, 25, killed in Beit Hanoun.

22. Suleiman Salman Abu Sowaween, 22, killed in Deir al-Balah.

23. Siraj Ayad Abdelal, 8, killed in Khan Younis.

24. Abdel Hadi Jumaa al-Sufi, 24.

25. Rashid al-Kafarneh, 30, killed in Beit Hanoun.

26. Nayfeh Farajallah, 80,

27. Abdel Nasser Abu Kweik, 60, killed in Beit Hanoun.

28. Khaled Abu Kweik, 31, killed in Beit Hanoun.

29. Mohammed Arif, 13, killed in Gaza.

30. Mohammed Malake, 1½, killed in Gaza.

31. Hanaa Malake, 27, killed in Gaza.

32. Hatem Abu Salem, unreported age

33. Mohammed Khaled al-Nimre, 22, killed in Gaza.

34. Sahar Hamdan al-Masri, 40, killed in Beit Hanoun.

35. Mohammed Ibrahim al-Masri, 14, killed in Beit Hanoun.

36. Mohammed Khalaf al-Nawasra, 4, killed in al-Maghazi.

37. Nidal Khalaf al-Nawasra, 5, killed in al-Maghazi.

38. Aicha Najm, 20, killed in al-Maghazi.

39. Salah Awad al-Nawasra, 6, killed in al-Maghazi.

40. Mahmoud Nahed al-Nawasra, unreported age.

41. Amal Yousef Abdel Ghafour, 27, killed in Khan Younis.

42. Raneem Judeh Abdel Ghafour, 1½, killed in Khan Younis.

43. Ibrahim Daoud al-Balaawi, 24, killed in Rafah.

44. Abdel Rahman Jamal al-Zamli, 22, killed in Rafah.

45. Ibrahim Ahmed Abdeen, 42, killed in Rafah.

46. Mustafa Abu Murr, 20, killed in Rafah.

47. Khaled Abu Murr, 23, killed in Rafah.

48. Mazen Faraj al-Jarba, 30, killed in Deir al-Balah.

49. Marwan Isleem, 27, killed in Deir al-Balah.

50. Hani Saleh Hamad, 57, killed in Beit Hanoun.

51. Ibrahim Hamad, 20, killed in Beit Hanoun.

52. Salima Hassan Maslam al-Arja, 60.

53. Mariam Atiah Mohammed al-Arja, 11.

54. Hamid Shihab, 37, killed in Gaza.

55. Ibrahim Khalil Qanan, 24, killed in Khan Younis.

56. Mohammed Khalil Qanan, 26, killed in Khan Younis.

57. Suleiman al-Astal, 55, killed in Khan Younis.

58. Hamdi Badie Sawali, 33, killed in Khan Younis.

59. Mohammed al-Akkad, 24, killed in Khan Younis.

60. Ahmed Sawali, 28, killed in Khan Younis.

61. Raed Shalat, 37.

62. Mahmoud Lutfi al-Hajj, 58, killed in Khan Younis.

63. Asmaa Mahmoud al-Hajj, 22, killed in Khan Younis.

64. Tarik Saad al-Hajj, 18, killed in Khan Younis.

65. Saad Mahmoud al-Hajj, 17, killed in Khan Younis.

66. Najlaa Mahmoud al-Hajj, 29, killed in Khan Younis.

67. Fatima al-Hajj, 12, killed in Khan Younis.

68. Omar al-Hajj, 20, killed in Khan Younis.

69. Basima Abdel Fattah al-Hajj, 57, killed in Khan Younis.

70. Ahmed Salim al-Astal, 24, killed in Khan Younis.

71. Moussa Mohammed al-Astal, 50, killed in Khan Younis.

72. Raed al-Zawarea, 33, killed in Khan Younis.

73. Bahaa Abu al-Leil, 35, Islamic Jihad member, killed in Gaza.

74.Salem Qandil, 27, Islamic Jihad member, killed in Gaza.

75. Amer al-Fayyoumi, 30, Islamic Jihad member, killed in Gaza.

76. Abdallah Ramadan Abu Ghazal, 5, killed in Beit Hanoun.

77. Islamel Hassan Abu Jamaa, 19, killed in Khan Younis.

78. Mohammed Ehsan Farwane, 18, killed in Khan Younis.

79. Mahmoud Talee Wallud, 26, Islamic Jihad member, killed in Jabalia.

80. Hazem Ibrahim Baaloushe, 30, Islamic Jihad member, killed in a civilian car in Jabalia.

81. Udai Rafik al-Sultan, 27, killed in Jabalia.

82. Hassan Awda Abu Jamaa, 75, killed in Khan Younis.

83. Yasmin Mohammed al-Mutwak, 4, killed in Beit Hanoun.

84. Ahmed Zaher Hamdan, 24, killed in Beit Hanoun.

85. Mohammed Kamal al-Kahlout, 25, killed in Jabalia.

86. Sami Andan Shaldan, 25, killed in Gaza.

87. Jumaa Atiah Shallouf, 25, killed in Rafah.

88. Bassam Abdel Rahman Khattab, 6, killed in Deir al-Balah.

89. Abdellah Mustafa Abu Mahrouk, 22, killed in Deir al-Balah.

90. Anas Rizk Abu al-Qas, 33 killed in Gaza.

91. Nour Marwan al-Najdi, 10, killed in Rafah.

92. Mohammed Mounir Ashour, 26, killed in Rafah.

93. Ghalia Deeb Jaber Ghanem, 57, killed in Rafah.

94. Wissam Abdel Razek Hassan Ghannam, 31, killed in Rafah.

95. Mahmoud Razek Hassan Ghannam, 28, Islamic Jihad member, killed in Rafah.

96. Kifah Shahadeh Deeb Ghannam, 33, killed in Rafah.

97. Raed Hani Abu Hani, 31, killed in Rafah.

98. Shahraman Ismaeil Abu al-Qas, 42, killed in Al-Breij.

99. Mazen Mustafa Aslan, 63, killed in Al-Breij.

100. Mohammed Rabih Abu Humeidan, 65, killed in northern Gaza.

101. Shahd al-Qreinawi, 7, killed in Al-Breij.

102. Abdel Halim Abdel Moeti, 54.

103. Hussein al-Mamlouk, 47, killed in Gaza.

104. Saber Sukkar, 80, killed in Gaza.

105. Nasser Mohammed Sammame, 49, killed in Gaza.

106. Rami Abu Musaed, 23, killed in Deir al-Balah.

107. Mohammed al-Sumeiri, 24, killed in Deir al-Balah.

108. Husam Eddine al-Razayne, 39, killed in Jabalia.

109. Anas Youssef Qandil, 17, killed in Jabalia.

110. Abdel Rahim Saleh al-Khatib, 38, killed in Jabalia.

111. Youssef Mohammed Qandil, 33, killed in Jabalia.

112. Mohammed Idris Abu Sanena, 20, killed in Jabalia.

113. Hala Weshahi, 31, killed in the disabled centre in Jabalia.

114. Suha Abu Saada, 38, killed in the disabled centre in Jabalia.

115. Ali Nabil Basal, 32, killed in Gaza.

116. Mohammed Bassem al-Halabi, 28, killed in Gaza.

117. Mohammed al-Suweiti, 20, killed in Gaza.

118. Ibrahim Nabil Hamade, 30, killed in Gaza.

119. Hassan Ahmed Abu Ghoush, 24, killed in Gaza.

120. Ahmed Mazen al-Balawi, 26, killed in Gaza.

121. Rateb Sobhi Youssuf al-Saifi, 22, killed in Al-Zaitoun.

122. Azmi Mahmoud Taha Obeid, 51, killed in shelling on Radwan street.

123. Nidal Mohammed Ibrahim Abu al-Malsh, 22, killed in shelling on Radwan street.

124. Suleiman Saeed Younis Obeid, 56, killed in shelling on Radwan street.

125. Ghassan Ahmed al-Masri, 25, killed in shelling on Radwan street.

126. Mustafa Mohammed Taha Anabe, 58, killed in shelling on Radwan street.

127. Rifaat Yousef Amer, 36, killed in Gaza.

128. Mohamed Idriss Abo Sowaylim, 20, killed in Jabalia.

129. Fadi Yaqoub Sukar, 25, killed in Gaza.

130. Qassim Jabr Adwan Ouda, 16, killed Khan Younis.

131. Mohammad Ahmed Bassal, 19, killed in Gaza.

132. Muhannad Yousuf Daheir, 23, killed in Rafah.

133. Mahmoud Abdallah Sharahta al-Shammal, 53.

134. Shadi Mohammed Zaareb, 21, killed in Rafah.

135. Imad Bassam Zaareb, 21, killed in Rafah.

136. Nahed Naeem al-Batesh, 41, killed in Gaza.

137. Bahaa Majed al-Batesh, 28, killed in Gaza.

138. Qusai Issam al-Batesh, 12, killed in Gaza.

139. Aziza Yousuf al-Batesh, 59, killed in Gaza.

140. Mohammed Issam al-Batesh, 17, killed in Gaza.

141. Ahmed Naaman al-Batesh, 27, killed in Gaza.

142. Yahia Alaa al-Batesh, 18, killed in Gaza.

143. Jalal Majed al-Batesh, 26, killed in Gaza.

144. Mahmoud Majed al-Batesh, 22, killed in Gaza.

145. Marwa Majed al-Batesh, 25, killed in Gaza.

146. Majid Sobhi al-Batesh, unkown age, killed in Gaza.

147. Khaled Majed al-Batesh, 20, killed in Gaza.

148. Ibrahim Majed al-Batesh, 18, killed in Gaza.

149. Manar Majed al-Batesh, 13, killed in Gaza.

150. Amal Hassan al-Batesh, 49, killed in Gaza.

151. Anas Alaa al-Batesh, 10, killed in Gaza.

152. Qusai Alaa al-Batesh, unknown age, killed in Gaza.

153. Rami Abu Shanab, 25, killed in Deir al-Balah.

154. Khawla al-Hawajri, 25, killed in Nuseirat.

155. Mohammed Ghazi Arif, 35, killed in Gaza.

156. Ghazi Mustafa Arif, 62, killed in Gaza.

157. Ahmed Yousef Dalloul, 47, killed in Gaza.

158. Hijazia Hamed al-Hilou, 80, killed in Gaza.

159. Muayed al-Aaraj, 3, killed in Khan Younis.

160. Fawziya Abdelal, 73, killed in Gaza.

161. Haitham Ashraf Zaareb, 21, killed in Rafah.

162. Laila Hassan al-Awdat al-Maghazi, 41.

163. Hussam Ibrahim al-Najjar, 14.

164. Ruwaida Abu Harb, 30.

165. Izzedine Bulbul, 25, killed in Gaza.

166. Hussein Abdel Qader Muheisen, 19, killed in Gaza.

167. Qassem Talal Hamdan, 23, killed in Beit Hanoun.

168. Maher Thabet Abu Mur, 24, killed in East Rafah.

169. Mohammed Salem Abu Breis, 65, killed in east Deir al-Balah.

170. Saddam Mousa Moammar, 23, killed in east Deir al-Balah.

171. Moussa Shahda Moammar, 60, killed in east Deir al-Balah.

172. Hanadi Hamdi Moammar, 27, killed in east Deir al-Balah.

173. Adham Mohammed Abdel-Fatah Abdelal, 25, killed in Gaza.

174. Hamid Suleiman Abu al-Araj, 60, killed in Deir al-Balah.

175. Abdallah Mahmoud Baraka, 24, killed in Khan Younis.

176. Tamer Salam Qudeih, 37, killed in Khan Younis.

177. Ziad Maher al-Najjar, 17, killed in Khan Younis.

178. Ziad Salem al-Shawi, 25, killed in Rafah.

179. Mohammed Yassir Hamdan, 24, killed in Gaza.

180. Mohammed Shakib al-Agha, 22, killed in Khan Younis.

181. Mohammed Younis. Abu Youssef, 25, killed in Khan Younis.

182. Sara Omar Sheikh al-Eid, 4, killed in Rafah.

183. Omar Ahmed Sheikh al-Eid, 24, killed in Rafah.

184. Jihad Ahmed Sheikh al-Eid, 48, killed in Rafah.

185. Kamal Atef Yousuf Abu Taha, 16, killed in Khan Younis.

186. Ismael Nabil Ahmed Abu Hatab, 21, killed in Khan Younis.

187. Ahmed Younis. Abu Youssef, 28, killed in Khan Younis.

188. Bushra Khalil Zaareb, 53, killed in East Rafah.

189. Atwa Umeir al-Ammour, 58, killed in east Khan Younis.

190. Ismael Salim al-Najjar, 46, killed in Khan Younis.

191. Mohammed Ahmed Ibrahim al-Najjar, 49, killed in Khan Younis.

192. Suleiman Abu Louli, 33, killed in Khan Younis.

193. Sobhi Abdel Hamid Mousa, 77, killed in Khan Younis.

194. Ismael Fattouh, 24, killed in Gaza.

195. Saleh Saeed Dahleez, 20, killed in Rafah.

196. Yassir Eid al-Mahmoum, 18, killed in Rafah.

197. Khalil al-Ashafi, 66, killed in Hajar al-Deek.

198. Mohammed Abdallah al-Rahuk, 23, killed in Rafah.

199. Mohammed Ismael Abu Ouda, 27, killed in Rafah.

200. Mohammed Sabri al-Debari, 20, killed in Rafah.

201. Abdallah Mohammed Abdallah al-Arjani, 19, killed in Khan Younis.

202. Ahmed Adil Ahmed al-Nawajha, 23, killed in Rafah.

203. Mohammed Tayseer Sharab, 23, killed in Khan Younis.

204. Farid Mahmoud Abu Daqqa, 33, killed in Khan Younis.

205. Ashraf Khalil Abu Shana, 33, killed in Rafah.

206. Khodra Salameh Abu Dakka, 24, killed in Khan Younis

207. Omar Ramadan Hassan Abu Dakka, 24, killed in Khan Younis.

208. Ibrahim Ramadan, 10, killed in Khan Younis.

209. Ahed Bakr, 10, Gaza beach

210. Zakaria Bakr, 10, Gaza beach

211. Mohammed Bakr, 11, Gaza beach

212. Ismail Bakr, 9, Gaza beach

213. Abdel Rahman Khalil al-Sarhi, 37, killed in Gaza

214. Hamza Raed Thari, 6, killed Jabalia

215. Akram Mohamed Abo Amer, 34, Killed in Khan Younis

216. Kamal Mohamed Mohamed Abo Amer, 38, killed in Khan Younis.

217. Hussein Abdel Latif Al Astal, 23, killed in Kahn Younis.

218. Roqayyah Al Astal, 70, killed in Khan Younis.

219, Yasmin Al Astal, 4, killed in Khan Younis.

220. Osama Mahmoud Al Astal, 6, killed in Khan Younis.

221. Hussam Jamal Shamloukh, 23, killed in Sheikh Ajleen in Gaza.

222. Mohamed Kamel Abdel Rahman, 30, killed in Gaza.

222. Mohamed Kamel Abdul-Rahman, 30, Gaza.

223. Mohamed Mahmoud al-Qadim, 22, Deir al-Balah.

224. Zainab Mohamed Saeed al-Abadla, 71, Khan Younis.

225. Mohamed Abdul-Rahman Hasouna, 67, Rafah.

226. Ahmed Raihan, 23, Beit Lahya.

227. Saleh Salem Fayyad, 25, Deir al-Balah.

228. Abdullah Salem al-Akhras, 25, Rafah.

229. Bashir Mohamed Abdul-Aal, 20, Rafah.

230. Mohammed Ziad Ghanem, 25, Rafah.

231. Mohamed Ahmed al-Hut, 41,Rafah.

232. Ismaeil Youssef El Kafarneh, age unknown, Beit Hanoun

Most of the dead were civilians and were around areas where Hamas was firing missiles ie:in their homes, mosques and schools. You can't simply deny that, Hamas has no care for human life and I can back that with a ton of videos from Hamas members themselves saying that. You know very well the Palestinians can't speak up against Hamas if not they will be accused of being a spy for Israel and get dragged around the whole city. Why do you think Sisi doesn't want to get in this business? Because he wants nothing to do with Hamas. The Palestinians AND Egypt know this. In fact, Egypt publicly condemns Hamas.
 
Yes the "large" loss of civilian life. But in Syria with close to 150,000 dead, no one bats an eye. Why? is it because your an arab or muslim and don't want to blame your own brothers?

Maybe it's partly because our government did not give a "pat in the back" and a "get of prison card" to either sides of this conflict (officially...).

20000's of people have died in Israel and Palestine over the last 60years. It's an enduring humanitarian crisis. If you are 60 and living there, this shit as been with you all your life. It's a different type of scenario to the "flash" horrors of Syria or Libya or whatever other country the USA&friends have planned to destabilized...
 
Mr Netanyahu is a war criminal and the bombing of Gaza is a war crime. The U.S. wants Hamas to further submit to the war criminal while he has snipers randomly kill Palestinian peace protesters who are protesting the continued occupation and annexation of Palestinian property. Israel is beyond and apartheid state and is actually a racist state policy based upon a god of real estate giving them property back when people believed the world was flat.

The 3 Israeli “teens” including one IDF sniper were supposedly kidnapped in Israeli-controlled territory. Hamas hasn;t claimed responsibility and Israel is YET TO PROVE to the Palestinian Authority or the World that hamas is responsible.
This collective punishment on the Palestinians is a war crime.
The genocide of the Palestinians is a war crime.
The purposeful targeting of a civilian population is a war crime.
The purposeful destruction of critical civilian infrastructure – water, sewer, power, communications, hospitals, first responders, etc – is a war crime.

The vile attacks on children at play is just further proof of how inhumane and vicious the Israeli forces are.


Have a read at this:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/why-im-on-the-brink-of-burning-my-israeli-passport-9600165.html

Ayelet Shaked…An Israeli parliamentarian said that Israel should kill all women in Gaza so that no more people are born there……Isn’t this mentality worse than Hitler’s……Zionism is the present day’s Nazism…
 
Israeli troops begin ground invasion of Gaza

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Evo - You need to give it up dude, stop trying to defend Israel's actions. No one is condoning terrorism here, rather the debate is on the large loss of civilian life in Gaza.

In essence, what people are realizing is that Gaza has become a large open air prison for Israel to go test out it's newest weapons on civilians whenever they want.

People the world over are tired of it, they are tired of paying for it with their tax dollars in the west and the day when Israel will loose all western support because of its cruel foreign policies is fast coming. Then Israel has no one to blame but themselves.

Gaza is a large open air prison, and that is fucking awful. It's blocked by Israel AND Egypt, There must be a reason Egypt blockades gaza as well.

Most people will believe something without really looking into it and are easily brainwashed, Hamas has crippled the Palestinians in the Gaza strip, no one seems to be looking into these people.

As far as Israel testing their newest weapons, they havent used anything "new" and at over 100,000USD an airstrike, and a 1 casualty per 10 strike rate, you think this is just for fuck of it?

If they're targeting civilians it's only costed Israel about 1 million USD per casualty so far. The Problem is Hamas, and as soon as they are gone everyone will see change.

As far as the tax dollars, the world has received way more than they put in, in return.
 
Mr Netanyahu is a war criminal and the bombing of Gaza is a war crime. The U.S. wants Hamas to further submit to the war criminal while he has snipers randomly kill Palestinian peace protesters who are protesting the continued occupation and annexation of Palestinian property. Israel is beyond and apartheid state and is actually a racist state policy based upon a god of real estate giving them property back when people believed the world was flat.

The 3 Israeli “teens” including one IDF sniper were supposedly kidnapped in Israeli-controlled territory. Hamas hasn;t claimed responsibility and Israel is YET TO PROVE to the Palestinian Authority or the World that hamas is responsible.
This collective punishment on the Palestinians is a war crime.
The genocide of the Palestinians is a war crime.
The purposeful targeting of a civilian population is a war crime.
The purposeful destruction of critical civilian infrastructure – water, sewer, power, communications, hospitals, first responders, etc – is a war crime.


The vile attacks on children at play is just further proof of how inhumane and vicious the Israeli forces are.


Have a read at this:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/why-im-on-the-brink-of-burning-my-israeli-passport-9600165.html

Ayelet Shaked…An Israeli parliamentarian said that Israel should kill all women in Gaza so that no more people are born there……Isn’t this mentality worse than Hitler’s……Zionism is the present day’s Nazism…

Intelligence... Not even once
 
Mr Netanyahu is a war criminal and the bombing of Gaza is a war crime. The U.S. wants Hamas to further submit to the war criminal while he has snipers randomly kill Palestinian peace protesters who are protesting the continued occupation and annexation of Palestinian property. Israel is beyond and apartheid state and is actually a racist state policy based upon a god of real estate giving them property back when people believed the world was flat.

The 3 Israeli “teens” including one IDF sniper were supposedly kidnapped in Israeli-controlled territory. Hamas hasn;t claimed responsibility and Israel is YET TO PROVE to the Palestinian Authority or the World that hamas is responsible.
This collective punishment on the Palestinians is a war crime.
The genocide of the Palestinians is a war crime.
The purposeful targeting of a civilian population is a war crime.
The purposeful destruction of critical civilian infrastructure – water, sewer, power, communications, hospitals, first responders, etc – is a war crime.

The vile attacks on children at play is just further proof of how inhumane and vicious the Israeli forces are.


Have a read at this:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/why-im-on-the-brink-of-burning-my-israeli-passport-9600165.html

Ayelet Shaked…An Israeli parliamentarian said that Israel should kill all women in Gaza so that no more people are born there……Isn’t this mentality worse than Hitler’s……Zionism is the present day’s Nazism…

I assume none of Hamas' actions are war crimes because they don't do none of every thing you just mentioned above. You keep believing that.
 
Mr Netanyahu is a war criminal and the bombing of Gaza is a war crime. The U.S. wants Hamas to further submit to the war criminal while he has snipers randomly kill Palestinian peace protesters who are protesting the continued occupation and annexation of Palestinian property. Israel is beyond and apartheid state and is actually a racist state policy based upon a god of real estate giving them property back when people believed the world was flat.

The 3 Israeli “teens” including one IDF sniper were supposedly kidnapped in Israeli-controlled territory. Hamas hasn;t claimed responsibility and Israel is YET TO PROVE to the Palestinian Authority or the World that hamas is responsible.
This collective punishment on the Palestinians is a war crime.
The genocide of the Palestinians is a war crime.
The purposeful targeting of a civilian population is a war crime.
The purposeful destruction of critical civilian infrastructure – water, sewer, power, communications, hospitals, first responders, etc – is a war crime.

The vile attacks on children at play is just further proof of how inhumane and vicious the Israeli forces are.


Have a read at this:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/why-im-on-the-brink-of-burning-my-israeli-passport-9600165.html

Ayelet Shaked…An Israeli parliamentarian said that Israel should kill all women in Gaza so that no more people are born there……Isn’t this mentality worse than Hitler’s……Zionism is the present day’s Nazism…

I think you have no idea how conscription works. If you're Israeli you don't have a choice.
 
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