Pour ou contre la légalisation ou la décriminalisation du pot?

Deagle said:

Ouais je me suis dit ça mais des fois j'ai comme l'impression que c'est aussi de l'ignorance, peut être parce qu'elle a jamais fumer (je lui ai jamais demander), et qu'elle croit vraiment que ça crée une dépendance au même titre que la poudre, du genre tu fume une puff et tu peux pas t'arrêter de la soirée. Et bien entendu elle va pas essayer de fumer à cause de ses croyances, alors ça fini par être un cercle vicieux qui fait que tu reste continuellement dans l'ignorance. Et justement les études et son métier doivent enforcir cette idée de "j'ai bati ma carrière la dessus et les jeunes que je vois qui sombre dans la drogue ont tous commencé avec du pot". Elle voit beaucoup de petites filles de laval et gens problématique du genre, je m'imagine pas ce qu'elle doit se dire à la fin de la journée en entendant ces histoires la. Au fond jcomprend un peu mais elle manque de confiance envers mon bon jugement je crois.

Au final c'est pas grave, c'est juste gossant quand je la voit et la première chose qu'elle va dire c'est "ahh ton teint est verdatre, on dirait que t'es malade. t'as tu fumer encore???" comme si j'étais encore un ado de 14 ans qui rentre à 1h du matin et qui sent la bière. Mais c'est ça être parent, je comprend ça aussi un peu. Elle a toujours été très protectrice.

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SimZx3KGT said:

ma mere vraiment progressé depuis l'époque ou elle jetait mes couteaux, mes bong etc.. avant elle voulait rien savoir.

aujourdhui j'ai 30 ans , un bon travail, une vie complète, elle voit bien que ca ma pas vraiment nuit.

Je lui ai montré mon plant de cannabis que j'ai dans une chaudière dans cours hier pi elle a meme pas été choqué. Vla 10ans elle m'aurait boudé solide. La retraite lui a fait du bien loll

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Deagle said:

j'en ai 24, seulement le temps le dira! j'ose espérer un scénario semblable, elle va prendre sa retraire bientôt et peut être que de pu entendre des histoires d'abus/viol/dépression/suicide va changer sa façon de voir ce qui l'entoure. ça et se faire un chum l'aiderait surement pas mal!

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V8-4ever said:

T'as 24 ans et t'as fumé ??
Oublie ça ton cerveau est scrap.

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SimZx3KGT said:

le mot marijuana stun autre affaire.

On devrait pu utiliser le mot marijuana a meme titre que c'est pu socialement acceptable de dire le mot *****.

C'est péjoratif. Ca me fait rire en criss de voir santé canada pi des clinic continuer d'utiliser ce mot la, cest comme si on continuait dapeller une personne noir un ***** pi que toute était beau.

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Spiter_01 said:

C'est vraiment un problème courant dans le monde médicale des docteurs de vielle génération qui garde des préjugés de leur époques contre toutes forme de nouveau traitement. Je pense que il y as des statistique qui le démontre dans le taux de prescription de marijuana médicale dépendant de l'age du médecin, les médecin plus jeunes sont plus ok à le prescrire.

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Ronin said:

Ouien... mais on parle d'une plante, pas une personne. La comparaison est boueteuse un peu. J'aime bien mieux l'éducation historique sur la mauvaise utilisation du mot dans le passé.

Shantal Arroyo a fait un bon plaidoyer dans le même sens que ce que tu racontes mais je peux pas m'empêcher de me dire... "oui mais non".

https://video.vice.com/fr_ca/video/pourquoi-je-suis-contre-lutilisation-du-mot-marijuana-1-620/58f547a73cb508da02c2de06

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Etymology

The term, originally spelled variously as "marihuana", "mariguana", etc., originated in Mexican Spanish.[9]

According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the term may come from the Nahuatl mallihuan, meaning "prisoner".[8] Author Martin Booth notes that this etymology was popularized by Harry J. Anslinger in the 1930s, during his campaigns against the drug.[10] However, linguist Jason D. Haugen finds no semantic basis for a connection to mallihuan, suggesting that the phonetic similarity may be "a case of accidental homophony".[11]:94 Cannabis is not known to have been present in the Americas before Spanish contact, making an indigenous word an unlikely source.[12]

Other suggestions trace the possible origins of the word to Chinese ma ren hua ('hemp seed flower'), possibly itself originating as a loan from an earlier semitic root *mrj "hemp".[13] The Semitic root is also found in the Spanish word mejorana and in English marjoram ('oregano'), which could be related to the word marihuana. This is also known in Mexico as "Chinese oregano".[12]

Additionally, traditional association with the personal name María Juana ('Mary Jane') is probably a folk etymology. The original Mexican Spanish used forms with the letter ⟨h⟩ (marihuana). Forms using the letter ⟨j⟩ (marijuana) seem to be an innovation of English, and their later appearance in French and Spanish are probably due to English influence.[8][14]

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Ronin said:

Comme je te dis, oui... mais non. Premièrement ton article trète pas directement du mot et son origine, le vidéo que j'ai posté, oui. Il va dans le même sens que ce que tu racontes. L'article de Wikipedia est plus nuancé.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marijuana_(word)




mais bon, IMO, dans ce dossier, il y a de bie nplus gros chats à fouetter.

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SimZx3KGT said:

perso j'ai arreter d'acheter du cannabis aux LP qui continue dutiliser le mot marijuana lol. Stun début.

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SimZx3KGT said:

bit of history in regards of the M word.

https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/where-did-the-word-marijuana-come-from-anyway-01fb

The word “marijuana” plays a controversial role in cannabis culture. Many well-known organizations such as Oakland’s Harborside Heath Center have publicly denounced “the M word” in favor of our favorite plant’s Latinate name, cannabis. Even Salon Magazine, a major press outlet outside of the cannabis industry, published an article titled “Is the word ‘Marijuana’ racist?” last year.

As mainstream culture becomes a little more herb-friendly, the terminology used by the industry is coming to center stage. But, why exactly does the term “marijuana” cause so much debate? Even worse, why has the word gained publicity as a racist term?

To save you from reading those lengthy history books or some boring academic articles, we’ve created this brief timeline to give you the low-down on “marijuana”’s rise to popularity in the United States. Here’s what you need to know:

The Mexican Revolution

1840-1900:

Prior to 1910, “marijuana” didn’t exist as a word in American culture. Rather, “cannabis” was used, most often in reference to medicines and remedies for common household ailments. In the early 1900s, what have now become pharmaceutical giants—Bristol-Meyer’s Squib and Eli Lilly—used to include cannabis and cannabis extracts in their medicines.

During this time, Americans (particularly elite Americans) were going through a hashish trend. Glamorized by literary celebrities such as Alexander Dumas, experimenting with cannabis products became a fad among those wealthy enough to afford imported goods.

1910:

Between the years of 1910 and 1920, over 890,000 Mexicans legally immigrated into the United States seeking refuge from the wreckage of civil war. Though cannabis had been a part of U.S. history since the country’s beginnings, the idea of smoking the plant recreationally was not as common as other forms of consumption. The idea of smoking cannabis entered mainstream American consciousness after the arrival of immigrants who brought the smoking habit with them.

1913:

The first bill criminalizing the cultivation of “locoweed” was passed in California. The bill was a major push from the Board of Pharmacy as a way to regulate opiates and psychoactive pharmaceuticals, and seemingly did not stem from the “reefer madness” or racialized understanding of “marijuana” that paved the way to full-on prohibition in the 1930s.

The Aftermath

1930s:

The Great Depression had just hit the United States, and Americans were searching for someone to blame. Due to the influx of immigrants (particularly in the South) and the rise of suggestive jazz music, many white Americans began to treat cannabis (and, arguably, the Blacks and Mexican immigrants who consumed it) as a foreign substance used to corrupt the minds and bodies of low-class individuals.

In the time just before the federal criminalization of the plant, 29 states independently banned the herb that came to be known as “marijuana.”

Harry Anslinger:

It would not be an overstatement to say that Harry Anslinger was one of the primary individuals responsible for creating the stigma surrounding cannabis. Hired as the first director of the recently created Federal Bureau of Narcotics in 1930, Anslinger launched a vigilant campaign against cannabis that would hold steady for the three decades he remained in office.

A very outspoken man, Anslinger used the recent development of the movie theater to spread messages that racialized the plant for white audiences. In one documented incident, Anslinger testified before Congress, explaining:


“Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind… Most marijuana smokers are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their satanic music, jazz and swing, result from marijuana usage.”

In another statement, Anslinger articulated: “Reefer makes darkies think they’re as good as white men…the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races.”

In retrospect, Anslinger’s efforts with the Bureau of Narcotics were the reason “marijuana” became a word known by Americans all over the country. When making public appearances and crafting propaganda films such as Reefer Madness, Anslinger specifically used the term “marijuana” when campaigning against the plant, adding to the development of the herb’s new “foreign” identity.

Cannabis was no longer the plant substance found in medicines and consumed unanimously by American’s all over the country.

1937:

The Marihuana Tax Act of 1937 was the culmination of Anslinger’s work and the first step to all-out prohibition. The bill federally criminalized the cannabis plant in every U.S. state. In order to discourage the production of cannabis use, the Tax Act of 1937 placed a one dollar tax on anyone who sold or cultivated the cannabis plant.

On top of the tax itself, the bill mandated that all individuals comply with certain enforcement provisions. Violation of the provisions would result in imprisonment and/or a fine of up to $2,000.

Though the word “marijuana” is the most common name for cannabis in the United States today, its history is deeply steeped in race, politics, and a complicated cultural revolution. Some argue that using the word ignores a history of oppression against Mexican immigrants and African Americans, while others insist that the term has now lost its prejudiced bite. Regardless of whether or not you decide to use the word yourself, it’s impossible to deny the magnitude and racial implications of its introduction to the American lexicon.

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SimZx3KGT said:

perso j'ai arreter d'acheter du cannabis aux LP qui continue dutiliser le mot marijuana lol. Stun début.

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Mtl Racing said:

On s'en calisse.



Matante TVA?

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Larryminator said:

Je vois pas mal de gens dans ma pratique qui prenne des drogues. Je suis contre la légalisation. J'aimerai vraiment que le gouvernement s'ouvre les yeux pis prépare mieux les choses avant de légaliser... C'est broche à foin selon moi

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