Best ROI over the past 5-years have been cars from the 70's and 80's

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We've all witnessed the explosion in 911 prices from the 70's to the mid 90's, amongst many others including the BMW E30 M3. Now here comes the Ferrari 308...

Today the current average value across the 308 range is $71,000, up 190 percent since 2011, according to Hagerty data. For the rare fiberglass 308s made in 1976, the increase is more than 200 percent. And earlier this year, a 1976 Ferrari 308 GTB Vetroresina set a world record for its type when it took $357,500 at a Gooding & Co. auction in Scottsdale, Ariz.
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There is a good article on Bloomberg

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...rrraris-are-red-hot-on-the-classic-car-market

If you are in the market to buy one, expect to pay anywhere from $50,000 to $300,000, depending on what you value in your car. The value is expected to level out and stabilize over the next few years. For instance, is the one you’re considering in perfect, original-condition form? Do you want one you’ll have to restore? Do you want one already restored? Those things determine how much you’ll have to pay.

Versions with rebuilt engines, for instance, routinely cost more than six figures: The current average sale price for all 308s at North American auctions is $110,000, according to Hagerty. (That is an increase of 58 percent over the past 12 months). For the biggest bargain, look closely at the two-valve injected versions made from 1980 to 1982. They have only 205 horsepower but are reliable drivers and more affordable than the others.

If you want to maximize the return on your investment, start looking toward versions from the early years. During the 308 production run, Ferrari introduced several variants: a 308 GTS Targa in 1977, plus GTBi and GTSi variants with improved fuel-injection from 1980 to 1982. (Fiberglass bodies had converted over to steel bodies by 1977; only 712 of those super-light ones made it through production.) By 1983 it was making the 308 GTBs and 308 GTS Quattrovalvole with even more engine refinement and power.
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In retrospect, would have been best to buy these cars (and 911's) then invest in the stock market. The ROIs have been fantastic...
 
Im calling it now, I think the 90s are next. Watch skyline prices skyrocket as they become legal in the states.

I think the R34 GTR will become a 100K car in the near future.
 
Jelly_Belly said:
Im calling it now, I think the 90s are next. Watch skyline prices skyrocket as they become legal in the states.

I think the R34 GTR will become a 100K car in the near future.
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Pis nous, la seule place dans tout l'Amerique du Nord, on n'a pas le droit "passkee cé danyereu" pour les matantes
 
Gregster said:
just to think a few years ago a 964 could be had for around 20k, a Carrera 3.2 even less.
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Yea :/ my dream when I was in high school was to buy a 930 as my weekend car after Uni once i got a "proper" job lol.

grat_master said:
Pis nous, la seule place dans tout l'Amerique du Nord, on n'a pas le droit "passkee cé danyereu" pour les matantes
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You can still buy them, you just cant plate them. And isnt that the whole point of being a collector? Buying a car and locking it away only to sell it 10 years later and make 50K+ off the profit? lol
 
Agree late 80's 90, and early 00's are next. Don't know if the r34 will ever reach 6 figures (i hope clean ones do) but i think cars to get now if you want ROI's in 10-20 years are, s54 z3 m coupe, lancia integrale evo 2, Jaguar XJ220, f50 and like OP says 308's, 993 911 turbo, audi rs2.....and many more too!
 
MrDuddly said:
Agree late 80's 90, and early 00's are next. Don't know if the r34 will ever reach 6 figures (i hope clean ones do)
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Yea of course, collectors only touch low mileage, stock cars.

So my prediction is: low mileage stock R34 GTRs will reach 100K-125K within 10 years of becoming legal state side. all GTRs (except R35) will also see an increase in value but not as much as R34s. I think R32 GTRs will reach maybe 50-60K.

I think stock 300ZXs are also going to see an increase around that time. (2025-2035)

Other predictions: Audi RS2, Ferrari F430 with manual transmission, Audi R8 with manual and Lambo gallardo with manual ,Volkswagen corrado (hail mary lol)
 
Jelly_Belly said:
Yea :/ my dream when I was in high school was to buy a 930 as my weekend car after Uni once i got a "proper" job lol.



You can still buy them, you just cant plate them. And isnt that the whole point of being a collector? Buying a car and locking it away only to sell it 10 years later and make 50K+ off the profit? lol
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In the early 2000s a 930 was 30-40k all day
 
Jelly_Belly said:
Yea of course, collectors only touch low mileage, stock cars.

So my prediction is: low mileage stock R34 GTRs will reach 100K-125K within 10 years of becoming legal state side. all GTRs (except R35) will also see an increase in value but not as much as R34s. I think R32 GTRs will reach maybe 50-60K.

I think stock 300ZXs are also going to see an increase around that time. (2025-2035)

Other predictions: Audi RS2, Ferrari F430 with manual transmission, Audi R8 with manual and Lambo gallardo with manual ,Volkswagen corrado (hail mary lol)
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A Corrado VR6 is starting to creep up along with MK3 GTi VR6... Another one Integra GSR and Type R.. People started buying up classic Porsches and it caused all older German cars to start sky rocketing. Fuck a W201 Mercedes was a car that NO ONE wanted now finding a decently clean one will cost you.

Here is the fucked up part... A clean 1st gen Neon R/T or ACR are starting to trade between 6-7k USD... We all laughed at a guy 6-8 years ago that started hoarding them

BTW R34 GT-Rs still command a price tag in Japan along with MK4 Supra.
 
Gregster said:
A Corrado VR6 is starting to creep up along with MK3 GTi VR6...
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Really? I did not know about the vr6 GTIs...

Yea about the Neon's my theory about why they arent gaining value is that when people want a car thats "JDM bro" They actually buy a japanese car, not the american ACR. And then you have the "Murican muscle" guys who want a V8. So the Neon falls into this... twilight zone where no one wants it.. (except neon enthusiats of course)

Which is a shame because its a great car. It was years ahead of the focus ST and RS
 
Lots of models mentioned previously are already rapidly increasing in value.
RS2s are already hitting 60k+ euros for sub-80k km examples, especially in Nogaro Blue... I believe that currently B5 RS4s are a better bet for a strong ROI...
As for Skylines, US-legal (hence Qc-legal) relatively clean examples are already over 20k USD on our market, a good 150% increase vs 3 yrs ago; BNR34s in perfect condition are already 70-80MM yen in Japan (where they are cheapest), so very very close to the 100k CAD price range already.

My picks for future investemnt-grade cars:
F355s with 6-speed transmissions are, imho, a great buy as they are already starting to increase in value.
Cosworth Escorts & Sierras in stock, unmolested condition are over 40k euros as well, and still on the rise.
I predict Lotus Esprits from 92-97 (S4, S4s, GT3s especially) are going to start to appreciate in value.
E34 M5s in perfect condition are fetching high prices in Europe right now, but can be purchased in N-A for a fraction of the price; a safe bet imo, especially seeing as E28 M5s are now ludicrously expensive, just like E30 M3s. E34s are next.
Pontiac G8 GXP 6-speeds have already started to rise in value; pick a mint one up under 40k USD and Im pretty sure that it sells for 25% more in 3-5 years. Same goes for 2nd gen CTS-Vs in any body style.
FD RX7s are gonna go up in value as well as they are legal to import starting next year...
 
Was driving earlier realized. What able eagle talons?

Too soon? Yes/No? Too niche?

Edit: I feel like it falls into the same zone as SRT20s
 
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