2016 Porsche 911 R: Already a Legend. For Good Reason? - Ignition Ep. 161

Never driven a classic 911, never driven an MR2. My neighbor has a mint MR2, and not once did I ever ask him for a ride or even bother to talk about his car.

On the other hand, if my neighbour had a classic 911, I would be in his driveway nearly everyday.

Maybe on a personal level for you it's comparable, but the feeling both cars give me is on complete opposite ends.
 
I'm talking behind the wheel. I would indeed enjoy the sight of a 911 in my neighbor's driveway, nice view and no need to pay the maintenance.
 
The thing with the 964 is that it wasn't developed at a very good time for Porsche. The company was in a very difficult financial state in the late 80s/early 90s and their car weren't selling well at all. The 964 wasn't supposed to be a ground breaking car from the beginning, but more of a modernized G series (Coilsprings suspension, power steering and components directly taken from the 959... ). The 964 Turbo was pretty much an old 930 mechanically wise (3.3 cis with a G50 gearbox).

Porsche needed a car that could be more competitive and more luxurious. Lets face it, Japanese sports cars were on top of their games in the early 90s.
 
Mad Max said:
The thing with the 964 is that it wasn't developed at a very good time for Porsche. The company was in a very difficult financial state in the late 80s/early 90s and their car weren't selling well at all. The 964 wasn't supposed to be a ground breaking car from the beginning, but more of a modernized G series (Coilsprings suspension, power steering and components directly taken from the 959... ). The 964 Turbo was pretty much an old 930 mechanically wise (3.3 cis with a G50 gearbox).

Porsche needed a car that could be more competitive and more luxurious. Lets face it, Japanese sports cars were on top of their games in the early 90s.
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The fact they held onto CIS for so damn long is almost comical. Even by the early 80s everyone had gone EFI! If you ever look under a 964 in the rear you can still see where the torsion bars would have gone
 
EFI conversion is probably the best upgrade you can do to a 930/964 Turbo. It seems like its a very expensive process though.

Its kinda funny how the 964 hijacked the thread about what is arguably the best 911 ever made. I would still take a 997.2 GT3 RS before it for some reasons.
 
Mad Max said:
EFI conversion is probably the best upgrade you can do to a 930/964 Turbo. It seems like its a very expensive process though.
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Considered it for my 930 and it's indeed expensive to do it right, if you can't do the work yourself. It will vastly improve drivability and fuel efficiency. I got an average of 25L / 100km on mine with the CIS.... However, the conversion is frown upon by purists, who believe a 930 should remain 100% original. So it should be made completely reversible, too avoid hurting resale value.
 
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