Donald John Trump is no longer president: what does it mean for you?

Larkee said:

Yeah, I'm no Trudeau fan either but he gets my support in this. Not only isn't Canada having a negative impact on US trade but the US trade deficits they has with China and Mexico and some others, is ALL because of the US when they needed to export their inflation. Now it's coming back to bite them in the ass.

So now that Trump as met Kim... Kim has everything to gain and Trump nothing to gain. So my guess is that to Trump, NK is just a hedge in case he fails with Iran. Only problem, Kim will never bow down to Trump, China wouldn't let him even if he desperately wanted too.

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Larkee said:

Yeah, I'm no Trudeau fan either but he gets my support in this. Not only isn't Canada having a negative impact on US trade but the US trade deficits they has with China and Mexico and some others, is ALL because of the US when they needed to export their inflation. Now it's coming back to bite them in the ass.

So now that Trump as met Kim... Kim has everything to gain and Trump nothing to gain. So my guess is that to Trump, NK is just a hedge in case he fails with Iran. Only problem, Kim will never bow down to Trump, China wouldn't let him even if he desperately wanted too.

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kornholio said:

Trump have the nobel of peace to win ... lol

but just to say it was the first president of united states to meet the north korea leader, i think it's enought for him.

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allroad said:

Forget the US and North Korea, the big winner stands to be China. Trump mentioned he would pull the US troops from South Korea, this leaves China with no US military presence in their backyard. China will relish at that, they can then control the whole region.

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KerplunK said:

J’ai de la misère à comprendre pourquoi Trump donne autant d’importance à un pays pauvre dirigé par un dictateur et traîne dans la boue son plus grand partenaire économique dont il est dépendant autant que l’inverse.

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It sure looks as if President Trump was hoodwinked in Singapore.

Trump made a huge concession — the suspension of military exercises with South Korea. That’s on top of the broader concession of the summit meeting itself, security guarantees he gave North Korea and the legitimacy that the summit provides his counterpart, Kim Jong-un.

Within North Korea, the “very special bond” that Trump claimed to have formed with Kim will be portrayed this way: Kim forced the American president, through his nuclear and missile tests, to accept North Korea as a nuclear equal, to provide security guarantees to North Korea, and to cancel war games with South Korea that the North has protested for decades.

In exchange for these concessions, Trump seems to have won astonishingly little. In a joint statement, Kim merely “reaffirmed” the same commitment to denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula that North Korea has repeatedly made since 1992.

“They were willing to de-nuke,” Trump crowed at his news conference after his meetings with Kim. Trump seemed to believe he had achieved some remarkable agreement, but the concessions were all his own.

The most remarkable aspect of the joint statement was what it didn’t contain. There was nothing about North Korea freezing plutonium and uranium programs, nothing about destroying intercontinental ballistic missiles, nothing about allowing inspectors to return to nuclear sites, nothing about North Korea making a full declaration of its nuclear program, nothing about a timetable, nothing about verification, not even any clear pledge to permanently halt testing of nuclear weapons or long-range missiles.

Kim seems to have completely out-negotiated Trump, and it’s scary that Trump doesn’t seem to realize this. For now Trump has much less to show than past negotiators who hammered out deals with North Korea like the 1994 Agreed Framework, which completely froze the country’s plutonium program with a rigorous monitoring system.

Trump made a big deal in his news conference about recovering the remains of American soldiers from the Korean War, but this is nothing new. Back in 1989, on my first trip to North Korea, officials there made similar pledges about returning remains, and indeed North Korea has returned some remains over the years. It’s not clear how many more remain.

Trump claimed an “excellent relationship” with Kim, and it certainly is better for the two leaders to be exchanging compliments rather than missiles. In a sense, Trump has eased the tensions that he himself created when he threatened last fall to “totally destroy” North Korea. I’m just not sure a leader should get credit for defusing a crisis that he himself created.

There’s still plenty we don’t know and lots of uncertainty about the future. But for now, the bottom line is that there’s no indication that North Korea is prepared to give up its nuclear weapons, and Trump didn’t achieve anything remotely as good as the Iran nuclear deal, which led Iran to eliminate 98 percent of its enriched uranium.

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