Donald John Trump is no longer president: what does it mean for you?

250Rocket said:
People still can't comprehend the dichotomy but it's very clear.
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That's pretty much the problem right there. The world is full of nuances but politicians try to dumb it down to black/white or left/right good/evil.
The dichotomy is of their own doing and it's by design.

Once they get you on "their side", they need to "lock you down" so you stay there. I can't believe people would advocate for more dichotomy. People need less blinders, not more.


250Rocket said:
Any social media (private company) should have the complete right to operate their site as they wish. HOWEVER if they make the claim of being an open and unbiased platform for anyone to speak their mind, they cannot maintain that position while banning/editorialize people. It's not a question of free speech, it's a question of not being a two-faced piece of shit company who puts on a facade to look good then act dictatorial when it suits them.
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Twitter is free to use. They're a business and they're in control.
Don't like it? Don't use it. Isn't that a bit like the famous tag line " America, love it or leave it?"

Sounds like someone trying to have their cake and eat it too. If you don't like it, leave it.

No one has an inherent right to a safe space on the internet on a platform they don't own.

Trump trying to act as if he can't get his message out. He's got a full blown propaganda outfit at his disposal (ie the white house) with a press secretary and staffers. He's Goliath, he's no underdog.

His problem is that he spent the last 4 years trying to undermine traditional media as he thought he'd have the upper hand in the digital realm.

Well, you never built or owned that platform and you took it for granted is what happened... and yeah, the last couple months haven't been so great and you don't have many "good stories" for the botnets to spread...

Trying to legislate to regulate the internet. Sounds like what the Democrats would do... Yeah, I'm sure republican are ALL ABOUT more legislation and restrictions on what people and corporations can / cannot do.

Republicans couldn't give two shits about net neutrality a little while back because the private corporations somehow knew best. Funny how things change...

Trump will wake up in a pissy mood every day where the polls have him trailing Biden (which is likely from this day on to the elections) He's going to have to pull some pretty aggressive moves to turn that momentum around. The next couple months could be pretty wild.
 
kahos said:
That's pretty much the problem right there. The world is full of nuances but politicians try to dumb it down to black/white or left/right good/evil.
The dichotomy is of their own doing and it's by design.

Once they get you on "their side", they need to "lock you down" so you stay there. I can't believe people would advocate for more dichotomy. People need less blinders, not more.




Twitter is free to use. They're a business and they're in control.
Don't like it? Don't use it. Isn't that a bit like the famous tag line " America, love it or leave it?"

Sounds like someone trying to have their cake and eat it too. If you don't like it, leave it.

No one has an inherent right to a safe space on the internet on a platform they don't own.

Trump trying to act as if he can't get his message out. He's got a full blown propaganda outfit at his disposal (ie the white house) with a press secretary and staffers. He's Goliath, he's no underdog.

His problem is that he spent the last 4 years trying to undermine traditional media as he thought he'd have the upper hand in the digital realm.

Well, you never built or owned that platform and you took it for granted is what happened... and yeah, the last couple months haven't been so great and you don't have many "good stories" for the botnets to spread...

Trying to legislate to regulate the internet. Sounds like what the Democrats would do... Yeah, I'm sure republican are ALL ABOUT more legislation and restrictions on what people and corporations can / cannot do.

Republicans couldn't give two shits about net neutrality a little while back because the private corporations somehow knew best. Funny how things change...

Trump will wake up in a pissy mood every day where the polls have him trailing Biden (which is likely from this day on to the elections) He's going to have to pull some pretty aggressive moves to turn that momentum around. The next couple months could be pretty wild.
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Reading your response it's clear you still don't get it. Ultimately it's not about trying to change Twitter, it's about getting people to see the bias they claim doesn't exist. If anyone thinks they are fair to everyone, they are delusional or asleep. They have the right to be unfair, they just can't at the same time claim to be. So that's how your spectrum of grey is wrong. Unless you're Schrodinger's cat, you can't be alive and dead at the same time just like you can't be neutral/biased at the same time. Pick one, either is acceptable as long as you claim to be the one you picked.
 
Quand tu prend une ligne éditoriale, tu deviens un éditeur et non simplement une plateforme.

  • Les éditeurs ont des responsabilités que les plateformes n'ont pas.
  • Les plateformes ont des protections que les éditeurs n'ont pas.

Que twitter prenne ses responsabilités si ils veulent jouer à la police (ce qui est leur droit).
 
kahos said:
Twitter is free to use. They're a business and they're in control.
Don't like it? Don't use it.
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It's way more complicated than that, go watch the "Facebook is too big" video with Chris Hughes (facebook's co-founder) explaining why it's getting out of control and why they have way too much power in today's era, from the moment Mr Facebook can decide what to filter what not to filter the thing is pretty much a political weapon. Add to this the unprecedented reach on people's mind, the data lake they have on literally everyone, Hitler's propaganda machine was peanuts when you think about it lol
 
C'est comme si Videotron aurait le pouvoir de bloquer Netflix pour promouvoir Illico. C'est une compagnie privee fait que elle peut faire ce qu'elle veut non?
 
Donald John Trump is now president: what does it mean for you?

*VR6* said:
It's way more complicated than that, go watch the "Facebook is too big" video with Chris Hughes (facebook's co-founder) explaining why it's getting out of control and why they have way too much power in today's era, from the moment Mr Facebook can decide what to filter what not to filter the thing is pretty much a political weapon. Add to this the unprecedented reach on people's mind, the data lake they have on literally everyone, Hitler's propaganda machine was peanuts when you think about it lol
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So we’re gonna go running straight to “big government knows best”?

The big networks don’t pretend they’re neutral and it’s fine. They control / edit the content at will.Their money printing licence isn’t threatened.

What makes social media so different that they have to play ball?

Why do they have to be impartial if Fox News doesn’t ? They’re a “political weapon” too if they want to.

Powerful man throws a tantrum and they’re supposed to cave in at once?

He’s been allowed to remain on that platform because they’re in the money making business. They want candidates and their supporters to interact / trash talk each other’s policies.

You really think they want the burden of playing the fact checking police ?

Besides the only reason he cares is because it cramps his style and it feeds into his persecution complex.

He had no qualms with using social media and their targeting tools before.

Can’t wait for the claims twitter “stole the elections” from him.
 
Spaceman Spiff said:
Did someone use FCC and clear guidelines in the same sentence? :rofl:
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Being tasked with and actually achieving it are 2 different things. It remains to be seen on the spectrum of crystal to mud where the final result ends up. Don't have high hopes but any is better than none unless they royally fuck it up.

kahos said:
So we’re gonna go running straight to “big government knows best”?

The big networks don’t pretend they’re neutral and it’s fine. They control / edit the content at will.Their money printing licence isn’t threatened.

What makes social media so different that they have to play ball?

Why do they have to be impartial if Fox News doesn’t ? They’re a “political weapon” too if they want to.

Powerful man throws a tantrum and they’re supposed to cave in at once?

He’s been allowed to remain on that platform because they’re in the money making business. They want candidates and their supporters to interact / trash talk each other’s policies.

You really think they want the burden of playing the fact checking police ?

Besides the only reason he cares is because it cramps his style and it feeds into his persecution complex.

He had no qualms with using social media and their targeting tools before.

Can’t wait for the claims twitter “stole the elections” from him.
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Calm your analysis tits Dr. Freud. Firstly, the networks are biased but everything they broadcast is open to them being sued. There's another side discussion on that point but without getting into the weeds, they are not like social media in the least bit, it's a horrible comparison.

Ignoring your armchair quackery, the reason this is important is because of the topic being censored, mail-in voting fraud. When it's convenient for them, they tell the truth.


Heck, when even the Washington Post admits Trump is correct, you know you're REALLY wrong

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...out-mail-in-ballots-is-completely-legitimate/

So derangement clouding judgement aside, having multi-billion dollar corporations able to be unchallenged arbiters of "the Truth" is pretty scary, especially when I see so many people take it hook, line, and sinker.
 
Jeremi01 said:
Il n'aime pas ça se faire ''fact cheké''.

Un vrai bébé lol
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80% du temps le fact check est l'opinion de quelqu'un d'autre. Trump est fou pour parler contre le système electoral et Twitter se trouve à l'affronter maintenant.
il y a tout le temps un peu de fraude dans les elections. quand c'est par la poste c'est plus facile. est-ce qu'il y en aura? personne le sait. je peux t'en nommer plein de votes ou des supçons de fraude ont été avancés.

Spaceman Spiff said:
Ce sont des compagnies privées. Elles ont le droit de faire ce qu'elles veulent avec leurs produits.
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si je comprends bien tu est d'accord avec l'affaire cambridge analitica.
 
250Rocket said:
Ignoring your armchair quackery, the reason this is important is because of the topic being censored, mail-in voting fraud. When it's convenient for them, they tell the truth.
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Trump voted by mail. So did his new press secretary.

As a matter of fact, she did it 11 times in the past 10 years.
https://www.tampabay.com/florida-po...enany-has-voted-by-mail-11-times-in-10-years/

Sounds like she doesn't spend much time in Florida...

Good for them but not for you!

That's not to say there are no concerns whatsoever with a change in the process. It could have impacts but he's not against it for benevolent reasons.

250Rocket said:
having multi-billion dollar corporations able to be unchallenged arbiters of "the Truth" is pretty scary, especially when I see so many people take it hook, line, and sinker.
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Got to pick a side here... Isn't free enterprise the cat's meow? Now you want big government and the FCC to be your savior?

They related his comment / message word for word. He wasn't censored.

Really, of all posts they could've thrown "disclaimers" about, maybe this wasn't the hill to die on / place to start. Perhpas they should've gone back and updated all of trump's message about chloroquine with a warning from Dr. Fauci now that more information is available. Now, that would be a public service annoucement!

We've known about Cambridge analytica and their work for years. Not a single fuck was given as twitter wasn't in his way then.
 
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Dumb Trump a pas peur du vote par la poste a cause de la fraude, c'est parce-qu'il sait que les jeunes, majoritairement démocrates ne sortent pas voter. Idem pour le vote Afro. Or par la poste, si il suffit de mettre un x sur un carton, mettre ca dans l'enveloppe et ciao bye par la poste, le vote risque d'etre bcp plus favorable au DNC
 
Larkee said:
Dumb Trump a pas peur du vote par la poste a cause de la fraude, c'est parce-qu'il sait que les jeunes, majoritairement démocrates ne sortent pas voter. Idem pour le vote Afro. Or par la poste, si il suffit de mettre un x sur un carton, mettre ca dans l'enveloppe et ciao bye par la poste, le vote risque d'etre bcp plus favorable au DNC
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Arrete, le vrai probleme c'est que les voix de la droite ne se font pas entendre sur internet. C'est tellement difficile a trouver que sans mes amis canadiens dans leur echo chamber conservateur américain, on n'en entendrais jamais parler sur internet/ MR :rolleyes:

Le vrai problème c'est qu'on a pas assez d'accès a Alex Jones et Rush Limbaugh quand on a vraiment besoin!

Non, non, on a pas peur d'un plus gros voter turnout...
 
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kahos said:
Trump voted by mail. So did his new press secretary.

As a matter of fact, she did it 11 times in the past 10 years.
https://www.tampabay.com/florida-po...enany-has-voted-by-mail-11-times-in-10-years/

Sounds like she doesn't spend much time in Florida...

Good for them but not for you!

That's not to say there are no concerns whatsoever with a change in the process. It could have impacts but he's not against it for benevolent reasons.
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There is a difference with absentee voting by mail which is a microscopic fraction of the total vote to assist those who are away from where they consider home and country/state wide voting by mail. If you don't understand the difference in magnitude I can't be bothered to discuss any further because it's pointless. Also in a presidential election does it really matter where you vote from?

As far as Kayleeigh, ultimately who are you to decide where she calls home. What if she plans to move back there when she retires, her family is there and she doesn't want a Democrat to fuck it up while she's away. As long as she votes once, there is nothing wrong.


Got to pick a side here... Isn't free enterprise the cat's meow? Now you want big government and the FCC to be your savior?

They related his comment / message word for word. He wasn't censored.

Really, of all posts they could've thrown "disclaimers" about, maybe this wasn't the hill to die on / place to start. Perhpas they should've gone back and updated all of trump's message about chloroquine with a warning from Dr. Fauci now that more information is available. Now, that would be a public service annoucement!

We've known about Cambridge analytica and their work for years. Not a single fuck was given as twitter wasn't in his way then.
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Censored, editorialize, modified,..... pick a word and stop playing semantics because at the end of the day it's the same, they messed with and added their opinion to his message.

Let me simplify it to a grade 5 level for you, but firstly we have to take a step back and consider there are three main pillars to society. Government, Business and the People. None of these three left with unchecked power is good.Basically it is acceptable until you reach the stage of monopolies, dictatorships or mob rule. Calling out any one of these as you approach that stage doesn't mean you're against them per say, just trying to keep things in balance.

Now think of it like a slightly more complex game of rock paper scissor. Business can beat any one individual but the government is there to keep business in check with non obtrusive laws, and an educated population is supposed to keep the government in check by voting.

But here people are not understanding this is reaching the critical point where they're getting to influence levels that can shape public opinions and policy. Government stepping in is the right action to put things back into balance, then they could fuck off again.

Back to the topic, Twitter was flat out wrong with their "fact check" about how there's no potential increase in fraud with mail-in ballots and this was the straw that broke the camels back. We're not talking about one piece of straw, the shit they and other social media platforms have been pilling up over the last 3 years is heavy. At the end of the day, it's there job to host a platform where people can communicate, not to be the gatekeepers of said communications, especially when it come to things that are against what they believe.
 
Twitter was bullied into making this fatal mistake by leftists TDS mobs. They were already targeting conservatives for years and nobody lifted a finger beacause republicans, by and large, are a bunch of turn the other cheek pussies. But Twitter mobs wanted them to take a shot at Trump and that's going to cost them a whoooooooole lot of money.
 
^ Hahah gotta give it to this guy when he's pissed off at someone/something his motivation level is quite impressive to get shit done lol.
 
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