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Discussion: Donald John Trump is now president: what does it mean for you?

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    Dangerous game. Next time dems are in power all the right wingers will be terrorists.

    Gonna start labeling people terrorists like Oprah.
    The Nazi Party did the same. Next thing you know they rounded up all political opponents

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    Cheetos tweets last night about the protesters outside the white house are fucked. This guy is unhinged.
    Except not a single person would pull the trigger only to get tossed under the bus by the same people you took an oath to defend. Same reason why I am convinced you can fly a plane into DC restricted zone and not get shot down

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    Citation Envoyé par Gregster Voir le message
    Except not a single person would pull the trigger only to get tossed under the bus by the same people you took an oath to defend. Same reason why I am convinced you can fly a plane into DC restricted zone and not get shot down

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    Trump would pardon any secret service member who shot a protester to "protect him".

    Fuck, probably make him secretary of defense.

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    Citation Envoyé par Omokocha Voir le message
    https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/co...m_medium=web2x

    It says:
    Hijacking top comment for this:

    https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck/st...910368261?s=20

    The United States of America has no legal authority to designate any domestic entities as “terrorist organizations.”

    The process for designating terrorist organizations involves foreign terrorist organizations: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1189

    And although some may claim that domestic designation authority comes from section 802 of the 2001 USA PATRIOT Act, that statute creates a definition of “domestic terrorism,” but no process for designating domestic organizations or imparting consequences to such a designation.

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    What a fucked up country...

    From a FB post I saw:

    Minneapolis, you were given the world’s stage. You had the world’s ear. Everyone was in your corner.

    • The public spoke out against those officers.
    • Police officers all over the country spoke out against those officers.
    • Elected Officials spoke out against those officers.
    • ALL races and ethnicities spoke out against those officers.
    • President Trump spoke out against those officers.


    But you wasted it. You wasted the perfect platform and opportunity to unite everyone together. To coordinate a bipartisan, nationwide, uniformed movement that would’ve gone down in the history books as a tipping point for reform. Everyone around the world was on your side and listening. (...)
    But no, lest go loot target and the local apple store and set shit on fire.

    What else could they want? It was illegal and the guy is getting charged...

    People / capital will flee the affected cities, taxes will go up. Way to fuck yourselves over...


    The political response has been just as much of a dumpster fire:
    -fighting fire with fire! hurr violence
    -hurr durr democrats
    -radical left!
    -left vs right
    -Antifa are terrorists (it's not like they're card carrying members...)

    I think it's in poor form, but it's quite skillful to turn this into an inner city vs suburbs and associated political factions. The inner cities weren't voting for trump anyways. This will polarize his base and give them something to be afraid of. It will pay off for him, no doubt about it.

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    Former Obama officials all over the MSM lying that right wing groups and russian funding are behind the riots with zero pushback from the anchors.

    There's tons of videos of ANTIFA and BLM burning, breaking and beating up people but I've yet to see a single video of these right wing groups involved in this nonsense.

    The gaslighting is unbelievable.

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    Citation Envoyé par Omokocha Voir le message
    Former Obama officials all over the MSM lying that right wing groups and russian funding are behind the riots with zero pushback from the anchors.

    There's tons of videos of ANTIFA and BLM burning, breaking and beating up people but I've yet to see a single video of these right wing groups involved in this nonsense.

    The gaslighting is unbelievable.
    They're saying the rioters are sleepers.

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    Citation Envoyé par Omokocha Voir le message
    Former Obama officials all over the MSM lying that right wing groups and russian funding are behind the riots with zero pushback from the anchors.

    There's tons of videos of ANTIFA and BLM burning, breaking and beating up people but I've yet to see a single video of these right wing groups involved in this nonsense.

    The gaslighting is unbelievable.
    https://www.startribune.com/russia-t...say/570900002/

    Foreign Nations will play both sides to stoke the flames. The end goal is to maximize chaos, disruption and distrust.
    They're off to a pretty good start I'd say.

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    Citation Envoyé par PsychoBandito Voir le message
    What about the mental damaged caused? How many blacks live in terror of being killed by a cop with no lawful motive?

    The guy literally said "please don't kill me". Should cops be placed on a terror list?

    Everyone on the opposite side is a terrorist these days.
    ROFL. Self mental entrapment is being your own terrorist. By your logic, monsters under the bed should also be on that list because kids imagine a threat.

    I used that example to prove how laughable your premise is but what about fear of flying/driving? A car or plane can crash but should somebody live their life in fear and not travel because it can happen. Accidents happen, so does bad policing but any black person who fears cops to a level they feel "terrorized" has a phobia (irrational fear), where at best it should be a concern. As it is, white people should be more concerned: https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...ites-study-fi/

    Meanwhile with Antifa, you have concrete example of what they've done. Burned buildings, destroyed cars, hit people over the head with bike locks, beat up independent reporters, prevent other people's free speech, etc.

    Actual vs imagined, all I'm saying. Inb4 people too stupid to realize I acknowledge there are problems with policing in 2020, but that they are not remotely terrorists.
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    It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society

    In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.

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    Citation Envoyé par kahos Voir le message
    https://www.startribune.com/russia-t...say/570900002/

    Foreign Nations will play both sides to stoke the flames. The end goal is to maximize chaos, disruption and distrust.
    They're off to a pretty good start I'd say.
    LOL. That columnist needs to get their head checked. Let me get this straight. In 2016 Russia was 100% behind Trump and even hacked Clinton to help him gain office. 2020 they're sowing civil war to do what exactly?

    The direct effect of its interference on presidential politics is less clear, though some U.S. officials said that Russia believed that acts of violence could bolster President Donald Trump's re-election bid if he could argue that a response to such an episode demanded continuity and that he represented a law-and-order approach.
    If Trump is their puppet, the worst thing they could do is cause turbulence. They would want him to glide on an easy path to re-election and at most they'd be stoking BLM against Biden after his comment about not being black if you don't vote for him. The writer of the article must be in bizarro world to reach the conclusions they do. That or they're listening to "U.S. officials" like Schiff and Nadler, who definitely still have the "secret and totally real" goods to bring down Trump.

    Face it, since 2017 there has been nothing but a constant stream of verbal diarrhea from the establishment trying to get Trump. The Russians, the Ukraine, impeachment, COVID and now this organized attack across the country. ALL OF IT was overblown, hyped by the media and pumped into the heads of willing NPCs. After the riots are done, expect the next contrived scandal
    Today's mighty oak is yesterday's nut that held it's ground.

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    LOL. That columnist needs to get their head checked. Let me get this straight. In 2016 Russia was 100% behind Trump and even hacked Clinton to help him gain office. 2020 they're sowing civil war to do what exactly?



    If Trump is their puppet, the worst thing they could do is cause turbulence. They would want him to glide on an easy path to re-election and at most they'd be stoking BLM against Biden after his comment about not being black if you don't vote for him. The writer of the article must be in bizarro world to reach the conclusions they do. That or they're listening to "U.S. officials" like Schiff and Nadler, who definitely still have the "secret and totally real" goods to bring down Trump.

    Face it, since 2017 there has been nothing but a constant stream of verbal diarrhea from the establishment trying to get Trump. The Russians, the Ukraine, impeachment, COVID and now this organized attack across the country. ALL OF IT was overblown, hyped by the media and pumped into the heads of willing NPCs. After the riots are done, expect the next contrived scandal
    You think the prospect of a level of influence over 4-8 years of presidency triggers a complete reboot on decades of tension and geopolitical struggles?

    Come on... with mutually assured destruction the only way to “win” at this is to attempt to destroy your enemies from within. And because it’s not really possible the next best thing is to Bog them down and undermine their positions on the world stage.

    Foreign intelligence services love playing king maker. He was the preferred candidate now and into the future, that makes little doubt. It doesn’t mean he’s a full blown asset -more of a useful idiot in Soviet doctrine - or that they can’t afford to play both sides of the aisle?

    If anything it’s a nice distraction from the coronavirus or the lame duck economy. Trump needs a new “front” as he would struggle to win on his record alone and 2020 has not been kind to him so far.

    No matter who wins, the U.S still comes out weakened by all this (the politics, the unrest etc)

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    When Obama called the Baltimore rioters thugs in 15, nobody said anything. Cheetos calls them thugs and the mentally unstable instantly lose their crap.

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    Citation Envoyé par kahos Voir le message
    You think the prospect of a level of influence over 4-8 years of presidency triggers a complete reboot on decades of tension and geopolitical struggles?

    Come on... with mutually assured destruction the only way to “win” at this is to attempt to destroy your enemies from within. And because it’s not really possible the next best thing is to Bog them down and undermine their positions on the world stage.

    Foreign intelligence services love playing king maker. He was the preferred candidate now and into the future, that makes little doubt. It doesn’t mean he’s a full blown asset -more of a useful idiot in Soviet doctrine - or that they can’t afford to play both sides of the aisle?

    If anything it’s a nice distraction from the coronavirus or the lame duck economy. Trump needs a new “front” as he would struggle to win on his record alone and 2020 has not been kind to him so far.

    No matter who wins, the U.S still comes out weakened by all this (the politics, the unrest etc)
    But you missed the point. The two narratives don't work together. If they were moderate and said Russia only slightly prefers Trump to Clinton, then sure, you're story could jive, but the "official" narrative goes from Trump and Putin being butt buddies in 2016-2019 to let's fuck everything up and hope our best friend gets re-elected? Doesn't make sense.

    Take 13 minutes and see how a Russian KGB defector laid out exactly how it's done. What Trump stands for is the antidote.




    BTW, where's the notice against call to violence Twitter?

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    But you missed the point. The two narratives don't work together. If they were moderate and said Russia only slightly prefers Trump to Clinton, then sure, you're story could jive, but the "official" narrative goes from Trump and Putin being butt buddies in 2016-2019 to let's fuck everything up and hope our best friend gets re-elected? Doesn't make sense.

    Take 13 minutes and see how a Russian KGB defector laid out exactly how it's done. What Trump stands for is the antidote.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA


    BTW, where's the notice against call to violence Twitter?

    https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b...?itok=tXdIrQUG


    voir que Twitter laisse un message comme celui la online ...

    le gars qui a ce compte twitter c'est clair que le FBI regarde ses moindres gestes

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    But you missed the point. The two narratives don't work together. If they were moderate and said Russia only slightly prefers Trump to Clinton, then sure, you're story could jive, but the "official" narrative goes from Trump and Putin being butt buddies in 2016-2019 to let's fuck everything up and hope our best friend gets re-elected? Doesn't make sense.

    Take 13 minutes and see how a Russian KGB defector laid out exactly how it's done. What Trump stands for is the antidote.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA


    BTW, where's the notice against call to violence Twitter?

    https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b...?itok=tXdIrQUG
    Those white hoods have guns, have at it you fucking morons.

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    But you missed the point. The two narratives don't work together. If they were moderate and said Russia only slightly prefers Trump to Clinton, then sure, you're story could jive, but the "official" narrative goes from Trump and Putin being butt buddies in 2016-2019 to let's fuck everything up and hope our best friend gets re-elected? Doesn't make sense.

    Take 13 minutes and see how a Russian KGB defector laid out exactly how it's done. What Trump stands for is the antidote.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA


    BTW, where's the notice against call to violence Twitter?

    https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b...?itok=tXdIrQUG

    "We take what's ours"

    What the fuck does that even mean.

    Seems like that twitter account is being managed by a teen degenerate.
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    "We take what's ours"

    What the fuck does that even mean.

    Seems like that twitter account is being managed by a teen degenerate.
    Sure sure, let me find what I have of yours in my pocket, wait, oh there you go



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    The only thing they’re right about is the fuckamerica hashtag. What a shithole country.

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    But you missed the point. The two narratives don't work together. If they were moderate and said Russia only slightly prefers Trump to Clinton, then sure, you're story could jive, but the "official" narrative goes from Trump and Putin being butt buddies in 2016-2019 to let's fuck everything up and hope our best friend gets re-elected? Doesn't make sense.

    Take 13 minutes and see how a Russian KGB defector laid out exactly how it's done. What Trump stands for is the antidote.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA
    That video is too old. The playbook is similar but the end result /objective is not. That was still all about the old marxist-leninist agenda. That ideology died some 30 years ago.

    No one in the GRU cares to get progressive people in charge in Washington anymore or get "regime change". Why would a capitalist country try to turn a capitalist country into a socialist country? There's no point in this.

    Modern day russia is in it for the money / influence, not ideology. An America that turns it's focus inwards and let's go of the "world police mission" leaves a vaccuum for Russia's sphere of influence to grow. That's what matters now. Trump has shown he'd walk that path (america first) and that's why he's their pick. As an added bonus, he's really into the strong guy putin image.

    Yelling Fake News is the antidote? Undermining the media is how you restore order? Undermining your own government (deep state) and not trusting your institutions / security services? (Putin said he didn't do it so I'll take his word over the security apparatus)

    The republican establishment fell in line with Trump because they realized that besides all the sideshows, he'd still work towards tax cuts for the big corporations. He's not a threat to big business interest so it's all good. A tax break on capital gain as a coronavirus incentive? How the fuck does that work when the people that don't have any jobs don't have any capital to tinker with?

    About 75% of Trump’s proposed coronavirus capital gains tax cut would go to the top 1% of earners
    Benefits would flow overwhelmingly to the wealthy, economists say

    Roughly three-quarters of the benefits from the capital gains tax cut floated by President Donald Trump as part of the administration's coronavirus relief plan would go to the top 1% of earners, according to the Tax Policy Center.

    Trump has repeatedly floated a cut to capital gains taxes, which are taxes paid by investors on profits made when an asset, like stock or real estate, is sold. The capital gains tax rate is already 35% lower than the top income tax rate, and only about 6% of households in the bottom 80% of earners claim any capital gains, meaning the overwhelming majority of benefits would flow to the wealthy.
    https://www.salon.com/2020/05/30/abo...-1-of-earners/

    The folks at the Kremlin must've been really, really surprised get an invite to Trump's G7.
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