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    https://www.zerohedge.com/technology...l-media-giants

    Well, wheels are in motion. FCC has been tasked with writing clear guidelines as to what can and cannot be done in term of censorship before they lose their "platform" immunity.


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    C'est comme si Videotron aurait le pouvoir de bloquer Netflix pour promouvoir Illico. C'est une compagnie privee fait que elle peut faire ce qu'elle veut non?

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    Did someone use FCC and clear guidelines in the same sentence?
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    il m'a ecrit qu,il a juste nommer des membres et que boxsterboy l'a bannis. ya parlé qu'il a "shout out"...fouille moé ce que ca veut dire lol!! moi je oense plus que c,est alcool. y boit pas mal pour oublier sa grosse pas belle de black qui lui sers de dompe a desh...sorry pour vince mais va falloir qui face un homme de lui un jour

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    Citation Envoyé par bigcortex Voir le message
    C'est comme si Videotron aurait le pouvoir de bloquer Netflix pour promouvoir Illico. C'est une compagnie privee fait que elle peut faire ce qu'elle veut non?
    Did you miss the whole fight for net neutrality?

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    Citation Envoyé par Spiter_01 Voir le message
    Did you miss the whole fight for net neutrality?
    Are the Republicans for or against it? I'm confused.
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    il m'a ecrit qu,il a juste nommer des membres et que boxsterboy l'a bannis. ya parlé qu'il a "shout out"...fouille moé ce que ca veut dire lol!! moi je oense plus que c,est alcool. y boit pas mal pour oublier sa grosse pas belle de black qui lui sers de dompe a desh...sorry pour vince mais va falloir qui face un homme de lui un jour

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    Donald John Trump is now president: what does it mean for you?

    Citation Envoyé par *VR6* Voir le message
    It's way more complicated than that, go watch the "Facebook is too big" video with Chris Hughes (facebook's co-founder) explaining why it's getting out of control and why they have way too much power in today's era, from the moment Mr Facebook can decide what to filter what not to filter the thing is pretty much a political weapon. Add to this the unprecedented reach on people's mind, the data lake they have on literally everyone, Hitler's propaganda machine was peanuts when you think about it lol
    So we’re gonna go running straight to “big government knows best”?

    The big networks don’t pretend they’re neutral and it’s fine. They control / edit the content at will.Their money printing licence isn’t threatened.

    What makes social media so different that they have to play ball?

    Why do they have to be impartial if Fox News doesn’t ? They’re a “political weapon” too if they want to.

    Powerful man throws a tantrum and they’re supposed to cave in at once?

    He’s been allowed to remain on that platform because they’re in the money making business. They want candidates and their supporters to interact / trash talk each other’s policies.

    You really think they want the burden of playing the fact checking police ?

    Besides the only reason he cares is because it cramps his style and it feeds into his persecution complex.

    He had no qualms with using social media and their targeting tools before.

    Can’t wait for the claims twitter “stole the elections” from him.

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    Trump is a little whiny bitch it seems

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    Citation Envoyé par Spaceman Spiff Voir le message
    Did someone use FCC and clear guidelines in the same sentence?
    Being tasked with and actually achieving it are 2 different things. It remains to be seen on the spectrum of crystal to mud where the final result ends up. Don't have high hopes but any is better than none unless they royally fuck it up.

    Citation Envoyé par kahos Voir le message
    So we’re gonna go running straight to “big government knows best”?

    The big networks don’t pretend they’re neutral and it’s fine. They control / edit the content at will.Their money printing licence isn’t threatened.

    What makes social media so different that they have to play ball?

    Why do they have to be impartial if Fox News doesn’t ? They’re a “political weapon” too if they want to.

    Powerful man throws a tantrum and they’re supposed to cave in at once?

    He’s been allowed to remain on that platform because they’re in the money making business. They want candidates and their supporters to interact / trash talk each other’s policies.

    You really think they want the burden of playing the fact checking police ?

    Besides the only reason he cares is because it cramps his style and it feeds into his persecution complex.

    He had no qualms with using social media and their targeting tools before.

    Can’t wait for the claims twitter “stole the elections” from him.
    Calm your analysis tits Dr. Freud. Firstly, the networks are biased but everything they broadcast is open to them being sued. There's another side discussion on that point but without getting into the weeds, they are not like social media in the least bit, it's a horrible comparison.

    Ignoring your armchair quackery, the reason this is important is because of the topic being censored, mail-in voting fraud. When it's convenient for them, they tell the truth.



    Heck, when even the Washington Post admits Trump is correct, you know you're REALLY wrong

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ly-legitimate/

    So derangement clouding judgement aside, having multi-billion dollar corporations able to be unchallenged arbiters of "the Truth" is pretty scary, especially when I see so many people take it hook, line, and sinker.
    Today's mighty oak is yesterday's nut that held it's ground.

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    It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society

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    Citation Envoyé par Jeremi01 Voir le message
    Il n'aime pas ça se faire ''fact cheké''.

    Un vrai bébé lol
    80% du temps le fact check est l'opinion de quelqu'un d'autre. Trump est fou pour parler contre le système electoral et Twitter se trouve à l'affronter maintenant.
    il y a tout le temps un peu de fraude dans les elections. quand c'est par la poste c'est plus facile. est-ce qu'il y en aura? personne le sait. je peux t'en nommer plein de votes ou des supçons de fraude ont été avancés.

    Citation Envoyé par Spaceman Spiff Voir le message
    Ce sont des compagnies privées. Elles ont le droit de faire ce qu'elles veulent avec leurs produits.
    si je comprends bien tu est d'accord avec l'affaire cambridge analitica.
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    Ca prennait bien un trou de cul pour crééer une situation de marde et mourrir d'un cancer de l'anus
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    63 genders now can fight over who's got the bigger wage gap

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    Ignoring your armchair quackery, the reason this is important is because of the topic being censored, mail-in voting fraud. When it's convenient for them, they tell the truth.
    Trump voted by mail. So did his new press secretary.

    As a matter of fact, she did it 11 times in the past 10 years.
    https://www.tampabay.com/florida-pol...s-in-10-years/

    Sounds like she doesn't spend much time in Florida...

    Good for them but not for you!

    That's not to say there are no concerns whatsoever with a change in the process. It could have impacts but he's not against it for benevolent reasons.

    Citation Envoyé par 250Rocket Voir le message
    having multi-billion dollar corporations able to be unchallenged arbiters of "the Truth" is pretty scary, especially when I see so many people take it hook, line, and sinker.
    Got to pick a side here... Isn't free enterprise the cat's meow? Now you want big government and the FCC to be your savior?

    They related his comment / message word for word. He wasn't censored.

    Really, of all posts they could've thrown "disclaimers" about, maybe this wasn't the hill to die on / place to start. Perhpas they should've gone back and updated all of trump's message about chloroquine with a warning from Dr. Fauci now that more information is available. Now, that would be a public service annoucement!

    We've known about Cambridge analytica and their work for years. Not a single fuck was given as twitter wasn't in his way then.
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    Dumb Trump a pas peur du vote par la poste a cause de la fraude, c'est parce-qu'il sait que les jeunes, majoritairement démocrates ne sortent pas voter. Idem pour le vote Afro. Or par la poste, si il suffit de mettre un x sur un carton, mettre ca dans l'enveloppe et ciao bye par la poste, le vote risque d'etre bcp plus favorable au DNC

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    Dumb Trump a pas peur du vote par la poste a cause de la fraude, c'est parce-qu'il sait que les jeunes, majoritairement démocrates ne sortent pas voter. Idem pour le vote Afro. Or par la poste, si il suffit de mettre un x sur un carton, mettre ca dans l'enveloppe et ciao bye par la poste, le vote risque d'etre bcp plus favorable au DNC
    Arrete, le vrai probleme c'est que les voix de la droite ne se font pas entendre sur internet. C'est tellement difficile a trouver que sans mes amis canadiens dans leur echo chamber conservateur américain, on n'en entendrais jamais parler sur internet/ MR

    Le vrai problème c'est qu'on a pas assez d'accès a Alex Jones et Rush Limbaugh quand on a vraiment besoin!

    Non, non, on a pas peur d'un plus gros voter turnout...
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    Trump voted by mail. So did his new press secretary.

    As a matter of fact, she did it 11 times in the past 10 years.
    https://www.tampabay.com/florida-pol...s-in-10-years/

    Sounds like she doesn't spend much time in Florida...

    Good for them but not for you!

    That's not to say there are no concerns whatsoever with a change in the process. It could have impacts but he's not against it for benevolent reasons.
    Facepalmthruface.jpg

    There is a difference with absentee voting by mail which is a microscopic fraction of the total vote to assist those who are away from where they consider home and country/state wide voting by mail. If you don't understand the difference in magnitude I can't be bothered to discuss any further because it's pointless. Also in a presidential election does it really matter where you vote from?

    As far as Kayleeigh, ultimately who are you to decide where she calls home. What if she plans to move back there when she retires, her family is there and she doesn't want a Democrat to fuck it up while she's away. As long as she votes once, there is nothing wrong.


    Got to pick a side here... Isn't free enterprise the cat's meow? Now you want big government and the FCC to be your savior?

    They related his comment / message word for word. He wasn't censored.

    Really, of all posts they could've thrown "disclaimers" about, maybe this wasn't the hill to die on / place to start. Perhpas they should've gone back and updated all of trump's message about chloroquine with a warning from Dr. Fauci now that more information is available. Now, that would be a public service annoucement!

    We've known about Cambridge analytica and their work for years. Not a single fuck was given as twitter wasn't in his way then.
    Censored, editorialize, modified,..... pick a word and stop playing semantics because at the end of the day it's the same, they messed with and added their opinion to his message.

    Let me simplify it to a grade 5 level for you, but firstly we have to take a step back and consider there are three main pillars to society. Government, Business and the People. None of these three left with unchecked power is good.Basically it is acceptable until you reach the stage of monopolies, dictatorships or mob rule. Calling out any one of these as you approach that stage doesn't mean you're against them per say, just trying to keep things in balance.

    Now think of it like a slightly more complex game of rock paper scissor. Business can beat any one individual but the government is there to keep business in check with non obtrusive laws, and an educated population is supposed to keep the government in check by voting.

    But here people are not understanding this is reaching the critical point where they're getting to influence levels that can shape public opinions and policy. Government stepping in is the right action to put things back into balance, then they could fuck off again.

    Back to the topic, Twitter was flat out wrong with their "fact check" about how there's no potential increase in fraud with mail-in ballots and this was the straw that broke the camels back. We're not talking about one piece of straw, the shit they and other social media platforms have been pilling up over the last 3 years is heavy. At the end of the day, it's there job to host a platform where people can communicate, not to be the gatekeepers of said communications, especially when it come to things that are against what they believe.
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    It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society

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    Twitter was bullied into making this fatal mistake by leftists TDS mobs. They were already targeting conservatives for years and nobody lifted a finger beacause republicans, by and large, are a bunch of turn the other cheek pussies. But Twitter mobs wanted them to take a shot at Trump and that's going to cost them a whoooooooole lot of money.

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    Lol he got it done

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    ^ Hahah gotta give it to this guy when he's pissed off at someone/something his motivation level is quite impressive to get shit done lol.

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    There is a difference with absentee voting by mail which is a microscopic fraction of the total vote to assist those who are away from where they consider home and country/state wide voting by mail. If you don't understand the difference in magnitude I can't be bothered to discuss any further because it's pointless. Also in a presidential election does it really matter where you vote from?

    As far as Kayleeigh, ultimately who are you to decide where she calls home. What if she plans to move back there when she retires, her family is there and she doesn't want a Democrat to fuck it up while she's away. As long as she votes once, there is nothing wrong.
    I'm glad what's her face voted. Getting people to vote should be the main objective in a healthy democracy, more so one faced with a health crisis.

    But it's not accurate to call it an absentee ballot. There is no requirement to be absent. Anyone can request one in Florida. "no excuse is needed to vote a vote-by-mail ballot" https://dos.myflorida.com/elections/.../vote-by-mail/

    Sorry, reality doesn't back that claim of an 'absentee' / way to re-frame the issue. Everyone can do it. So why use it if they're against it?

    Why is Kelly-Anne Conway basically calling going to the poll a citizen's responsibility akin to a pilgrimage... 'people wait in line longer for other thing' It rings a bit hollow when she voted...by mail.

    You can't praise this extra-accessibility /convenience on one hand when it suits a person and then claim it's too crooked to be trusted on the other. Sorry, that just won't do. That's a shit strategy. it's dishonest and it falls appart at the seams.

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    Let me simplify it to a grade 5 level for you, but firstly we have to take a step back and consider there are three main pillars to society. Government, Business and the People. None of these three left with unchecked power is good.Basically it is acceptable until you reach the stage of monopolies, dictatorships or mob rule. Calling out any one of these as you approach that stage doesn't mean you're against them per say, just trying to keep things in balance.

    Now think of it like a slightly more complex game of rock paper scissor. Business can beat any one individual but the government is there to keep business in check with non obtrusive laws, and an educated population is supposed to keep the government in check by voting.

    But here people are not understanding this is reaching the critical point where they're getting to influence levels that can shape public opinions and policy. Government stepping in is the right action to put things back into balance, then they could fuck off again.

    Back to the topic, Twitter was flat out wrong with their "fact check" about how there's no potential increase in fraud with mail-in ballots and this was the straw that broke the camels back. We're not talking about one piece of straw, the shit they and other social media platforms have been pilling up over the last 3 years is heavy. At the end of the day, it's there job to host a platform where people can communicate, not to be the gatekeepers of said communications, especially when it come to things that are against what they believe.
    Ah, I love it when you're angry! Coronavirus is pretty cool! I've been on break for months and I automatically go to 6th grade next year!

    So you'd rather take Trump's word over the Federal Election Commission (FEC) Commissioner's? Btw He never claimed there was no potential risk (way to re-write history) what he did was overstated the extent of fraud and didn't back it up.

    There is NO WAY (ZERO!) that Mail-In Ballots will be anything less than substantially fraudulent.
    - Trump
    vs

    "There's simply no basis for the conspiracy theory that voting by mail causes fraud. None,"
    - Weintraub aka FEC pointing to fact checks from The Washington Post and CNN, as well as reports from other organizations about the effectiveness of the voting method.

    Sounds like that would be trusting the politicians out of the blue claims over the impartial person in government in charge of elections...https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...leads-to-fraud

    If Snopes get to call it BS (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ma...t-voter-fraud/) why can't twitter do it? What makes one different over the other?

    Is Trump above editorial content on the internet? Is that what it is?

    It's quite novel to see republicans cheering for restraints on the 1st amendment. He even called it "defending free speech" lol

    Yes, Let's build the "great firewall" so only the chosen few platforms can exist, so long as it's done in a way consistent with what the government is willing to allow. We're doing it for your safety, citizen.

    I can't wait to see which new enemy they will pledge to protect their flock from next.

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    ^ Hahah gotta give it to this guy when he's pissed off at someone/something his motivation level is quite impressive to get shit done lol.
    This has been waiting in the wings for months. It's not like he took a break from rage tweeting to draft this. Political parties / governments always have these things set aide waiting for the right opportunity / crisis.

    "That is consistent with a draft order whose text CNN first reported last summer -- and which prompted FCC officials to push back on the plan privately." https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/28/polit...der/index.html

    It'll polarize his base in their hate against all things silicon valley, the democratic / Californian elite.

    It's a smart move from their perspective. It's all about muddying the water. The expected court challenges will make this "the gift that keeps on giving" throughout the election period by keeping it in the news cycle.

    He's setting the stage for disagreeing with the election results if they don't suit him. It's quite obvious.
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    Twitter almost backed down from Trump's strongly worded executive order.

    JK. They're actually censoring him now. You have to click on the disclaimer before you can take in your dose of wisdom.



    https://www.fox9.com/news/twitter-sl...neapolis-riots

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    You realize that to this day 250R still believes that there was massive fraud to the tune of millions of votes in 2016? Every time I've asked him to provide any evidence of it the best he can muster up is a few cases here and there. I'd settle for proof of 10 000 cases of voter fraud 4 years later and still waiting, maybe Qanon will dump it in november?

    It's ironic that for years republicans have been arguing that these federal agencies shouldn't be creating the rules that implement the legislation passed by congress but rather congress should be making specific rules yet here we are delegating to a federal agency to make the rules POTUS wants without going through congress.

    It's also impressive how Trump has managed to make it about him again, he won't let people dishonor the memory of George Floyd? LOL
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    We are living in Idiocracy, but I’d rather have Terry Crews on a chopper as president.

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