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    Democrats Keep Changing The Rules Of Impeachment
    In the Trump era, norms are malleable.

    When Barack Obama’s Attorney General Eric Holder ignored congressional subpoenas in an investigation into a scandal featuring a body count, White House Spokesperson Dan Pfeiffer argued that administration officials had no duty to participate in what amounted to “political theater rather than legitimate congressional oversight.”

    So does the White House get to decide what constitutes a legitimate congressional investigation? Or is it only Democrats who make this determination? Since Pfeiffer now argues that an administration that ignores congressional subpoenas is functioning “above the law”—surely an impeachable offense—I can only imagine the latter.


    Now, impeachment is political option that should be dusted off far more frequently. It’s a shame House Republicans never used this remedy during the scandal-plagued Obama years. The country, though, needs some consistent standards, or all we have is theater.

    For instance, knowing that the Republican-controlled Senate is unlikely to remove the president over his reckless call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is doing her best to maximize the political impact of a nebulous “inquiry.”

    Part of this political effort means delaying a full House vote, which would likely result in the judiciary committee laying out ground rules and procedures moving forward. This was the bipartisan process used during both Clinton and Nixon sagas.

    Now we have a new set of rules.


    Perhaps Pelosi is looking to solidify a vote total, or maybe she’s trying to protect members in swing districts, or, most likely, she’s waiting for the most politically opportune time to move forward. All of that is her prerogative. They are also political considerations, despite all the distraught coverage, not decisions predicated on protecting the integrity of process or Congress or the Constitution. Let’s face it, the notion that progressives are concerned about process is risible.

    The non-vote, however, allows the House Intelligence Committee to shower subpoenas on the White House and create the impression, through the innuendo of activity, that Trump’s call with Zelensky was not merely a high crime (highly debatable) but the tip of widespread conspiracy (less debatable).

    The non-vote allows hyper-partisans like Rep. Adam Schiff to keep testimony secret when useful, selectively sharing useful snippets of evidence with media allies who then dutifully curate all the leaks into a useful political narrative. After two years, and dozens of misleading stories fueling Russia collusion coverage, former special counsel Robert Mueller ultimately debunked Schiff’s core contention. With Ukraine, the congressman only needs to propel his production into November 2020.

    Pelosi’s delay also allows Democrats to shield the name of the intelligence whistleblower. I bet Linda Tripp wishes she had been so lucky. No, this isn’t a criminal trial, but you suspect many voters who are okay with a hypothetical impeachment would regard the act of facing an accuser a matter of fundamental fairness.


    Even if the name isn’t shared with the public, it should be shared with congressional Republicans. There’s every reason to be wary of politically motivated players in the government. House Democrats can gin-up the melodrama, suggesting the person, facing moral danger, testify from a remote location with an obscured appearance and voice like a Mafia informant. But as the Wall Street Journal editorial board points out:

    The whistleblower statute is intended to protect individuals against reprisal at work. It isn’t supposed to provide immunity from public scrutiny about claims aimed at ousting a President. We wonder if the goal here is to protect the whistleblower or prevent the American people from learning something that might cast doubt on his accusations.

    It’s fair to wonder. Whistleblowing is an important tool of good government. Yet not all whistleblowers are chaste do-gooders. We know that this one met with Schiff’s office for guidance before filing his report (although we still don’t know how helpful the congressman was) and that Schiff lied about that meeting. The whistleblower also reportedly had “some type of professional relationship” with a 2020 Democratic Party candidate that could, potentially, benefit from an impeachment.

    None of these factors mean the whistleblower’s contentions should be summarily dismissed, but they’re all pertinent. What if, for instance, we learn that the whistleblower worked for Joe Biden? Most media have decreed that any questions about the Biden’s family extraordinarily fortuitous foreign business dealings are nothing but conspiracies, even though those charges are at the center of the phone call that is the current impetus for impeachment. Seems pertinent.

    It also seems likely we are going to find all this out. At some point, Pelosi will have to turn the key. Considering the potential backlash for inaction, it seems unthinkable at this point that she won’t. And Trump, like Pelosi, will be making his own political considerations.


    Because though it might be a great surprise to those covering the impeachment story, history didn’t begin in 2016, and the executive and legislative branches have always been at war. Simply because Democrats keep changing the rules doesn’t mean Republicans have to play along.


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    Thank you Danny/Spiter_01, I stand corrected on this topic!

    The impeachment inquiry CAN formally proceed WITHOUT a vote from the House of Representatives.

    Pelosi COULD make it happen in order to show transparency but chooses not to for obvious corrupted reasons.

    Historical Factoid: The House of Representatives did vote for an impeachment inquiry before the start of the proceedings against Richard Nixon in 1973 and Bill Clinton in 1998.

    Let the political circus and kangaroo court continue!



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    Citation Envoyé par kahos Voir le message
    The one where facts and stats are just like your opinion, man?
    kahos: "Trump colluded with Russia!"
    guy: "The Mueller report said no collusion".
    kahos: "Collusion is not a crime, conspiracy is a crime! It was a trap, Mueller was tasked to find collusion, not conspiracy, meaning he couldn't do it job properly."
    Mueller: "We did base our investigation on conspiracy. And we did not find any conspiracy".
    kahos: "You're wrong! Not finding conspiracy doesn't mean conspiracy does not exist! Trump Jr met with Russian lawyer for dirts!"
    Trump Jr: "But there was no exchange of any dirts".
    Russian lawyer: "There was no dirt exchanged".
    Everyone in the room: "There was no dirts exchanged".
    kahos: "Even if there was no dirts exchanged during the meeting, it doesn't mean dirts weren't echanged before or after the meeting!".


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    Really worth a listen (From July 2018):



    A 1st Generation Mexican alpha male (with a 500M net worth) telling it like it is.

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    Is Trump a pharmaceutical drug and coke addict?

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    Citation Envoyé par Ronin Voir le message
    Is Trump a pharmaceutical drug and coke addict?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPFVHM_G05o
    Drumpf is done, they got him cornered now!





    Maybe he gets them from Justin? Trudope is such a great actor that he can dilate his pupils on command. Teach me your ways, Justin, I want to be your pupil.
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    Citation Envoyé par Ronin Voir le message
    Is Trump a pharmaceutical drug and coke addict?
    Wouldn't be surprised nor shocked, aren't like the majority of people over 60 on some ludicrous cocktail of drugs in the US? JFK also had his doctor feel good.

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    Citation Envoyé par Spiter_01 Voir le message
    Wouldn't be surprised nor shocked, aren't like the majority of people over 60 on some ludicrous cocktail of drugs in the US? JFK also had his doctor feel good.
    I entirely agree with you. Imagine being 70+ and having to compete with a Canadian PM in his 40's that is most likely high as a kite.

    Let's agree on this: Presidency should only be a possibility for folks below 65 years old.
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    Citation Envoyé par NoTop5.0 Voir le message
    -'National security tariffs' fucked us over. Really? steel and aluminum and dairy stuff? That's it? I guess that's how China became the 'Worlds Factory', they slowly suck the blood out of a country without you realizing it. Then they use all the resources they accumulated to fuck you over with, like building a huge arsenal.
    -For the rocket man, u never heard of ' Keep your friends close, your enemies closer'? Will it work? who knows. All the other tactics didn't work.
    -How a bout a 79 cry baby?
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    Wait, was it a good thing? Was it done for our benefit?
    So what has Trump done that's been good for me as a Canadian then? I won't hold not being a Justin fan against him (in spite of how childish he was about it)
    He certainly hasn't been of any help in the Huawei affair. China has been shitting on us for our part in taking her in custody. What did we get for being good sports about it?

    Draining the D.C swamp by bringing in his own cronies like Rudy.
    Heck, even some of his former supporters have had a change of heart for some reason.

    Ask Rex Tillerson or McMaster how they feel about trump's mental prowess.

    I can't recall any other presidents literacy being questioned in recent history.

    Speaking at a "4th grader level". Even Le Journal de Montreal aims higher... https://www.newsweek.com/trump-fire-...s-obama-774169


    He's well past his "best before" date.

    Citation Envoyé par nightshifter Voir le message
    kahos: "Trump colluded with Russia!"
    guy: "The Mueller report said no collusion".
    kahos: "Collusion is not a crime, conspiracy is a crime! It was a trap, Mueller was tasked to find collusion, not conspiracy, meaning he couldn't do it job properly."
    Mueller: "We did base our investigation on conspiracy. And we did not find any conspiracy".
    kahos: "You're wrong! Not finding conspiracy doesn't mean conspiracy does not exist! Trump Jr met with Russian lawyer for dirts!"
    Trump Jr: "But there was no exchange of any dirts".
    Russian lawyer: "There was no dirt exchanged".
    Everyone in the room: "There was no dirts exchanged".
    kahos: "Even if there was no dirts exchanged during the meeting, it doesn't mean dirts weren't echanged before or after the meeting!".

    Nice paraphrasing. As expected accuracy has taken some creative liberties. If that's your main takeaway from my position, that's alright. Unsurprisingly, we may not agree on what is factual and what isn't in this case and I don't care to revisit that.

    Let's see what happens with the obstruction business when he loses his executive privilege.
    Dernière modification par kahos ; 10/10/2019 à 19h44.

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    Wait, was it a good thing? Was it done for our benefit?
    So what has Trump done that's been good for me as a Canadian then? I won't hold not being a Justin fan against him (in spite of how childish he was about it)
    He certainly hasn't been of any help in the Huawei affair. China has been shitting on us for our part in taking her in custody. What did we get for being good sports about it?

    Draining the D.C swamp by bringing in his own cronies like Rudy.
    Heck, even some of his former supporters have had a change of heart for some reason.

    Ask Rex Tillerson or McMaster how they feel about trump's mental prowess.

    I can't recall any other presidents literacy being questioned in recent history.

    Speaking at a "4th grader level". Even Le Journal de Montreal aims higher... https://www.newsweek.com/trump-fire-...s-obama-774169


    He's well past his "best before" date.


    Nice paraphrasing. As expected accuracy has taken some creative liberties. If that's your main takeaway from my position, that's alright. Unsurprisingly, we may not agree on what is factual and what isn't in this case and I don't care to revisit that.

    Let's see what happens with the obstruction business when he loses his executive privilege.
    The steel tariffs was a fuck all thing. Our customers just bitch more, that's it. There was no major job loss because of it. The real loser are the steel suppliers trying fight off China that are dumping their steel at %30 - %40 cheaper than they can produce. Bitch about that.
    He's an American president to benefit American people, not for kahos. He's doesn't do anything for me too except give me entertainment, and freaking people like you out who can't believe Clinton is not the top bitch.
    China has been shitting on EVERYBODY, most of the time, you just don't realize it. Either they hold some canadians hostage or steal the countries jobs from under their nose, even while the cdn. government and people like you who thinks this is fair trade.
    Yea, he's a dope, arrogant, but he's business smart. Bullies everybody, cool. At least he's not dancing in a sheet.
    Citation Envoyé par HeavyMetal Voir le message

    Pis, c'est quoi ton trip de switcher du français pour l'anglais tout à coup? Un powertrip?

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    Lots of dirt coming out of ukraine today.

    Not the one Trump had wished for...

    Two associates of Rudy Giuliani were charged with campaign finance violations Thursday, an abrupt development that sent shockwaves through Washington and put increased scrutiny on President Trump’s personal lawyer.

    The Ukraine-born businessmen, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, were arrested late Wednesday at Dulles International Airport with one-way international tickets.

    Parnas and Fruman, who are both U.S. citizens, are accused of orchestrating a straw donor scheme to circumvent campaign finance laws, partly by funneling $325,000 to a pro-Trump super PAC using a fake energy company they created.

    John Dowd, the attorney for Parnas and Fruman, wrote to the panel on Thursday saying his clients “assisted Mr. Giuliani in connection with his representation of President Trump.”
    Arrested as they were about to leave the country. Shortly after Barr was made aware of the impeding arrest. Interesting.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ani-associates

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/20...ociates-funnel

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    Yup just heard that on the news. OP is a wizard

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    Citation Envoyé par NoTop5.0 Voir le message
    The steel tariffs was a fuck all thing. Our customers just bitch more, that's it. There was no major job loss because of it. The real loser are the steel suppliers trying fight off China that are dumping their steel at %30 - %40 cheaper than they can produce. Bitch about that.
    He's an American president to benefit American people, not for kahos. He's doesn't do anything for me too except give me entertainment, and freaking people like you out who can't believe Clinton is not the top bitch.
    China has been shitting on EVERYBODY, most of the time, you just don't realize it. Either they hold some canadians hostage or steal the countries jobs from under their nose, even while the cdn. government and people like you who thinks this is fair trade.
    Yea, he's a dope, arrogant, but he's business smart. Bullies everybody, cool. At least he's not dancing in a sheet.
    It wasn't a fuck all thing, it was a fuck you. It was insulting and uncalled for. Softwood lumber by comparison was legit.

    Of course, because I think Trump is a joke, I must be a democrat / clinton Fan. I called her a crook but secretly I must wish she was in Charge or something. What a sad state of affairs.

    You really think the American people benefit from their institutions being turned into a joke on Twitter?

    Trump talks a big talk, but you've got ESPN, Apple and most of their big corporations kissing China's ass at every chance they get. Look at holywood these days, it ain't hard to follow the money. The 20th century was America's. The 21st is China's. There's only 35 millions of us, you think we matter? We're collateral damage at best.

    We can't even get enough people working at Timmies and you think we're going to bring manufacturing back here?

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    Citation Envoyé par kahos Voir le message
    It wasn't a fuck all thing, it was a fuck you. It was insulting and uncalled for. Softwood lumber by comparison was legit.

    Of course, because I think Trump is a joke, I must be a democrat / clinton Fan. I called her a crook but secretly I must wish she was in Charge or something. What a sad state of affairs.

    You really think the American people benefit from their institutions being turned into a joke on Twitter?

    Trump talks a big talk, but you've got ESPN, Apple and most of their big corporations kissing China's ass at every chance they get. Look at holywood these days, it ain't hard to follow the money. The 20th century was America's. The 21st is China's. There's only 35 millions of us, you think we matter? We're collateral damage at best.

    We can't even get enough people working at Timmies and you think we're going to bring manufacturing back here?
    It was a fuck all thing in terms it did fuck all to the steel industry. You get triggered easy if you find that insulting.
    I think you secretly want to bang Hilary (no bag too) while Chelsea watches...( you naughty boy, you)
    Who cares if they benefit or not. Grim is keeping me entertained.
    21st will be China's because everybody is scared to rattle their cage. Hey let's build an artificial island and claim more of south china seas.
    Not really to bring manufacturing back, but not lose more of our shit.
    Citation Envoyé par HeavyMetal Voir le message

    Pis, c'est quoi ton trip de switcher du français pour l'anglais tout à coup? Un powertrip?

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    I hope your feelings towards China aren't too deeply rooted. I have a feeling he's going to tone down that rhetoric quite a bit. Big brain needs a big deal right now to change the channel/offset some big mess back home. The contents of the deal doesn't matter, so long as he can spin it to his base and point to how well the economy is doing under his watch.

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    Trump Savagery:

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    Lots of dirt coming out of ukraine today.

    Not the one Trump had wished for...



    Arrested as they were about to leave the country. Shortly after Barr was made aware of the impeding arrest. Interesting.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ani-associates

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/20...ociates-funnel



    Maybe you should look into this:

    In a statement, America First said it segregated the Global Energy contribution after a complaint was filed with the Federal Election Commission. “We take our legal obligations seriously and scrupulously comply with the law, and any suggestion otherwise is false,” according to the statement.

    Jay Sekulow, the president’s personal lawyer, said in an interview that Trump was unaware of Parnas and Fruman’s alleged actions.

    “Neither the president, nor the campaign, nor the PACs were aware of the financial issues involved,” he said.


    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ederal-charges



    Just to add to that article:

    Not to defend anyone but the Obama campaign was found guilty of many Campaign finance violations. I'll let you google that.
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    Just so you know why the Leftist news is all over the Kurds.

    Most of these Kurd militia groups are communist revolutionaries


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdis...rkers%27_Party

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/america...sis-1437747949

    https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/in...tners-in-syria

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/c...eyre-damn-reds




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    trump sur twitch https://www.lapresse.ca/affaires/tec...ect-twitch.php

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