Personal Beliefs - Thoughts - Family teachings and the misleading education system

I do not care about facebook or any other media.
I have my own beliefs and do not need what's in 'trend' to decide what is right and wrong.

You are at full liberty to perceive what context things are written and posted. I know that what I have to filter on here is post attacks on others degrading them, making sure that the other posting member feels like shit.

If you feel it is yours or any other members public job task to make people feel small, then you all ... you know who you are should give yourself a pat on the back.

If people did not stand up for themselves, then they would stay in a corner and drown themselves in sorrow.

Informative,

what would you like to have posted?
The truth about refugees? The reason why these members of our society seeked a 'nouvelle france' as well as we did 500 years ago?

Ask yourself this question, when you see people on Montreal streets begging for money, for food, what do you think?

Go get a job?
or
Damn I am happy to be in my car right now.

how did I make you feel small with what I said? I didn't bash. I didn't say you're an idiot without reading your posts like the other guy there. we're having a discussion. just because we don't agree it doesn't mean I'm wrong or you're wrong. maybe we're both wrong. we're talking about it and maybe we'll figure it out. maybe we'll both be stupider after this.
 
how did I make you feel small with what I said? I didn't bash. I didn't say you're an idiot without reading your posts like the other guy there. we're having a discussion. just because we don't agree it doesn't mean I'm wrong or you're wrong. maybe we're both wrong. we're talking about it and maybe we'll figure it out. maybe we'll both be stupider after this.

my statement was towards what I read on the forum posts. I get cute alarms when people get out of hand.
Nothing directly to you at all.
As for the gloves, its an expression that I use before debating on mr
 
The truth about refugees? The reason why these members of our society seeked a 'nouvelle france' as well as we did 500 years ago?

People who came here 500 years didn't have a roof and food waiting for them. They had to fight for their survival and in the process became productive members of the society.
 
Ok ...

Let me first state that this is not a thread to openly discuss members here. This is not an attack towards anyone or any belief that you may or may not have. Just something I needed to write because of the numbers of thread posts I have had to look into.

Sad.
Sadness is an emotion that you feel inside your soul, your heart aches. When a little boy or girl drops their food on the floor, it is not sadness, the crying, that 99 out of 100 people do in Canada or the USA react as its a shitty situation. We buy another plate or give and share with anothers.

However, real sadness, is seeing some child eat thrown out food off the floor or in dumpsters to survive.

Face it, most of you have NEVER ever experienced real hard times or suffering. Mommy and Daddy always being around to help you. Right?

Ever had to look for food, plants, fruit, anything along those lines? I highly doubt it.

You don't need to go through hard times yourself to be taught a lesson. I remember as a young kid, couldn't have been more than 6 year old I pushed peas off the side of my plate because i didn't want to eat them. I got the scolding of a life time from my father about how I was privileged to have 3 meals a day. To this day I don't waste food so the failure is in the parents

Bitching about your cable, intenet being down, getting outbidded on an auction ... that is what people here bitch about.

So for all of you members bitching about immigrants coming into 'your country' and using 'your tax money' ... STMFU

You have no idea, NONE, even in your worst dreams not even close as to the experiences that people coming here seeking refuge have been through.

Ever see your parents raped in front of you by RCMP SQ OR POLICE??? Nopes

What about you parents killed because they did not want to give up land that was being taken from them ... Maybe a few Natives or Inuits here have, but that is about it.

How about a wave 20 feet high destroying your life, your country's government and 200,000 other peoples lives ?? Don't think so ...

I'm sorry but I disagree with you here. Firstly the world is filled with bad, evil and corrupt people and there's plenty of shit situations. Trying to take in all people who have suffered is not charitable it's stupid. What do they tell you in the safety briefing on a plane. Put your own oxygen mask on first then secure that of a loved one.Yes we have 1st world amenities but look behind the curtains and the system is falling apart. Our health care is in ruins, we can't pay pensions, our infrastructure is shit and the list goes on.

Now let's be more specific, the Haitians coming into Montreal. I get that they're fleeing from a shit hole but why don't they go back and make their own country better? If we could magically insure that all immigrants would be net contributors to society I wouldn't mind but every person who comes in and takes from society it's "X" less dollars for a natural born Canadian. Let's get our shit together and then we can be super charitable with public funds. Before then, private charity only.


Just to see the the hatred posted hurts me to no end.
Maybe because I grew up in a household never to pre-judge someone because of color, religion, size, or intelligence.

Being arrogant in posts about the migrants coming makes you very judgemental and you are insulting everything it means to be Canadian, let alone Quebecois.

Please, before rude or hateful posting, do not pre-judge. We are all immigrants to Canada, our true Anscestors were NOT born here. (most members are not Native in decendance) They seeked refuge from other countires as well. Sailed over oceans as well looking for that promise land. Do you guys not remember History class in Secondary 4????

You may not fully understand because of un-education or just not paying attention in school, or maybe because of how news is broadcasted. In any case, being black, white, brown, asian, hispanic ... we all have a choice, to be better.

Better then our parents were. Better then the grandparents were.

If this motto was 100% true, again I would have to agree with you but in this day and age it's not. 3 of 4 of my grandparents immigrated here after the war. They all busted their ass working hard, and my parents busted theirs and now I'm in a situation that you described hoping to give my kids better. However we're not it that era any more. Basic jobs that once put food on the table are disappearing. They're either outsourced or automated. So these people coming in on top of having a slight disadvantage have a shrinking pool of jobs they're qualified for. No job = burden to society. More over I would argue that if the European migrants were seeking a better life through hard work they would have stopped in various countries. Instead they cluster to those with the biggest social handouts. That's not hard work, land of opportunity, that's a free ride on the backs of hard working people of another nation, something my grand parents never did.

Understanding truely what it means to be a Canadian.
For sure there is going to be hatred for individual reasons, example bad x boyfriend, x girlfriend, teacher, old boss, other kid or parents, but that does not mean you need to continue the trend.

When I went to school, no matter what English or French, private or public ... there was always more tension between students because of language.

Never of religion.

I feel that a lot of kids at young age are taught from arrogance of parents. When shopping to 'avoid' going down this row of products because there is a muslim family there ... or not wanting to go to that cash because there is a family 'uncommon' to the parent there.

This happens all the time. Un-caring for others is in your blood. It is taught be family beliefs before, and unfortunately the school systems are limited to NOT alter the scheduled teaching system they have to follow.

So ... who is to blame?

We all are. Our parents, our grandparents and so on.

I have over the years met people that would hear I am Canadian and drop down to the floor in praise like I did something right. Why is that done? I did nothing, just treated you like I wanted to be treated. I did not overjudge you because of your clothes, your acne, your skin color, or the car choice you have.

People are people and no matter what others may believe in, Hindu, Islam, Buddist, Catholic, ... we all shit and piss the same way and we all need to eat. We all are born the same and die the same.

There is a lot of views that needs to be changed, not just members on MR

Just my take on things ... Please keep the posts clean, there is more hatred everyday but we do not need to act or follow it.

Tolerance and respect of anybody else is golden and should be what we strive for. I must agree that parents passing their biases is probably the most harmful thing for the perpetuation of hate but you make it seem like a white person problem . Have you ever heard the radio prank where a daughter tells her Jewish parents she's dating an Italian. How is this not super offensive?



Another example, I have an Indian-Canadian friend, his parent are off the boat and won't let him marry anyone but an Indian girl. Seriously, we shout racism at the smallest thing a white person does but then you have shit like this that only furthers division.

Lastly I think we've failed in that everything is racism. I would argue that each group in society has their "undesirables". Whites (Trailer trash), Blacks (Naggers), Jewish (K*kes), Italian (Wops), French (Pea Soups) and the list goes on. To not acknowledge the difference within each group is harmful. It's harmful because if you want to address problems with the sub group you're labeled a racist. Furthermore stereotype are not racist. For example let's say you believe white people can't jump. To hold that belief is not racist. It becomes racism when you meet a white Olympic high jumper and you deny them from playing basketball because white people can't jump.

Simply put racism is not giving an individual a chance to prove your belief wrong. If society treated that as truth we would be able to talk about some hard topics without people shouting their opponents quiet with the racism card.
 
People who came here 500 years didn't have a roof and food waiting for them. They had to fight for their survival and in the process became productive members of the society.

you really did not pay attention in class.
The natives taught the 'founders of canada' how to hunt because they had no knowledge of killing large animals, just birds.
They were told to use the bird meat to feed their horses to make the horses stronger to pull heavier weight in the snow.
Also taught them snow shoes, how to climb mountains, to make teepees and make shelters out of 4 trees and 3 pelts.

Productive society ?
bring all the sailors here to the new world, as well as 2000 slaves from traded parties, we found a place were we can bang as many women as possible, take land, kill everything in site and smoke weed all day long.

You really think you know history here?
 
look at the two next links for slavery in 1500s +

http://www.brycchancarey.com/slavery/index.htm
http://etymonline.com/columns/frenchslavery.htm

guess who made those settlements?
Sailors?? Rofl

watch some movies about slave labour and then understand who your decendances are as a proud quebecer or canadian


as for the haitians or any other nationality sneaking into a country of freedom come on in.

If they were coming from France and they were not Black in color ... we would not have any issues right?? Ahh your stomach feels that pain it is called the truth.
 
Tolerance and respect of anybody else is golden and should be what we strive for. I must agree that parents passing their biases is probably the most harmful thing for the perpetuation of hate but you make it seem like a white person problem . Have you ever heard the radio prank where a daughter tells her Jewish parents she's dating an Italian. How is this not super offensive?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKAz0a77Fm0


Another example, I have an Indian-Canadian friend, his parent are off the boat and won't let him marry anyone but an Indian girl. Seriously, we shout racism at the smallest thing a white person does but then you have shit like this that only furthers division.

Lastly I think we've failed in that everything is racism. I would argue that each group in society has their "undesirables". Whites (Trailer trash), Blacks (Naggers), Jewish (K*kes), Italian (Wops), French (Pea Soups) and the list goes on. To not acknowledge the difference within each group is harmful. It's harmful because if you want to address problems with the sub group you're labeled a racist. Furthermore stereotype are not racist. For example let's say you believe white people can't jump. To hold that belief is not racist. It becomes racism when you meet a white Olympic high jumper and you deny them from playing basketball because white people can't jump.

Simply put racism is not giving an individual a chance to prove your belief wrong. If society treated that as truth we would be able to talk about some hard topics without people shouting their opponents quiet with the racism card.

For sure there is some beliefs that have merit.
Our system was not 'just' damaged, if you feel that way where have you been for the last 15 years when it was stated there was a problem ... guess no one pays attention when problems are in front of you (not u personally) it is easier to bitch to the opponent running against you.

We knew 20 years ago that eventually our system will get plagued. Medicare suffering because 1200 doctors and nurses left because of talks of separation ... remember that??
 
Ok ...

Let me first state that this is not a thread to openly discuss members here. This is not an attack towards anyone or any belief that you may or may not have. Just something I needed to write because of the numbers of thread posts I have had to look into.

Sad.
Sadness is an emotion that you feel inside your soul, your heart aches. When a little boy or girl drops their food on the floor, it is not sadness, the crying, that 99 out of 100 people do in Canada or the USA react as its a shitty situation. We buy another plate or give and share with anothers.

However, real sadness, is seeing some child eat thrown out food off the floor or in dumpsters to survive.

1- Face it, most of you have NEVER ever experienced real hard times or suffering. Mommy and Daddy always being around to help you. Right?

Ever had to look for food, plants, fruit, anything along those lines? I highly doubt it.

2- Bitching about your cable, intenet being down, getting outbidded on an auction ... that is what people here bitch about.

So for all of you members bitching about immigrants coming into 'your country' and using 'your tax money' ... STMFU

3- You have no idea, NONE, even in your worst dreams not even close as to the experiences that people coming here seeking refuge have been through.

4- Ever see your parents raped in front of you by RCMP SQ OR POLICE??? Nopes

What about you parents killed because they did not want to give up land that was being taken from them ... Maybe a few Natives or Inuits here have, but that is about it.

How about a wave 20 feet high destroying your life, your country's government and 200,000 other peoples lives ?? Don't think so ...


Just to see the the hatred posted hurts me to no end.
Maybe because I grew up in a household never to pre-judge someone because of color, religion, size, or intelligence.

Being arrogant in posts about the migrants coming makes you very judgemental and you are insulting everything it means to be Canadian, let alone Quebecois.

Please, before rude or hateful posting, do not pre-judge. We are all immigrants to Canada, our true Anscestors were NOT born here. (most members are not Native in decendance) They seeked refuge from other countires as well. Sailed over oceans as well looking for that promise land. Do you guys not remember History class in Secondary 4????

You may not fully understand because of un-education or just not paying attention in school, or maybe because of how news is broadcasted. In any case, being black, white, brown, asian, hispanic ... we all have a choice, to be better.

Better then our parents were. Better then the grandparents were.

Understanding truely what it means to be a Canadian.
For sure there is going to be hatred for individual reasons, example bad x boyfriend, x girlfriend, teacher, old boss, other kid or parents, but that does not mean you need to continue the trend.

5- When I went to school, no matter what English or French, private or public ... there was always more tension between students because of language.

Never of religion.

I feel that a lot of kids at young age are taught from arrogance of parents. When shopping to 'avoid' going down this row of products because there is a muslim family there ... or not wanting to go to that cash because there is a family 'uncommon' to the parent there.

This happens all the time. Un-caring for others is in your blood. It is taught be family beliefs before, and unfortunately the school systems are limited to NOT alter the scheduled teaching system they have to follow.

So ... who is to blame?

We all are. Our parents, our grandparents and so on.

I have over the years met people that would hear I am Canadian and drop down to the floor in praise like I did something right. Why is that done? I did nothing, just treated you like I wanted to be treated. I did not overjudge you because of your clothes, your acne, your skin color, or the car choice you have.

People are people and no matter what others may believe in, Hindu, Islam, Buddist, Catholic, ... we all shit and piss the same way and we all need to eat. We all are born the same and die the same.

There is a lot of views that needs to be changed, not just members on MR

Just my take on things ... Please keep the posts clean, there is more hatred everyday but we do not need to act or follow it.

1- Ah, c'est vrai. Mes parents étaient toujours là pour m'aider lorsque j'ai expérimenté quelque chose de dur... J'ai déjà agressé sexuel par un voisin dans un sous-sol lorsque j'avais 6ans. Mon père est décédé à 56ans: je lui ai jamais dit (il était déjà mort). Je l'ai dit à ma mère après avoir eu 30ans. Elle a toujours su qu'il y avait quelque chose qui s'était passé du genre mais ne savait pas qui ni quand. J'ai déjà aussi sévèrement corrigé par mon père pour des raisons futiles (souvent parce qu'il avait besoin de se défouler). Il m'a déjà menacé de me tuer avec une arme blanche à la main.

2- Jamais je me plains de telles choses.

3- J'ai pas le fardeau des réfugiés à porter. J'ai déjà le mien. Et c'est sûr qu'ils nous voudront pas du mien. Fair enough.

4- Des policiers qui violent des personnes devant des enfants? N'importe quoi! J'ai été un enfant agressé sexuellement. Des policiers de la SQ m'ont pris en charge lorsque j'étais en dépression nerveuse (justement lorsque je revivais en flashback mon agression sexuel, j'avais 30ans): ils m'ont conduit à l'hôpital pour que je sois traité. Il avait même un policier qui a entendu avec moi dans la salle d'attente pour être certain que je vois un spécialiste de la santé.

5- J'ai dans un école primaire où tout le monde était des Québéçois de souche de milieu bourgeois et ça s'écoeure pareil et des cliques se forment. Pas besoin d'être des minorités ethniques pour expérimenter cela.

Somme toute, tu généralises et fais des amalgames. T'as pas idée qu'il y en a qui souffrent et qui sont Québéçois de souche. Je trouve que t'es pas mal au-dessus de tes affaires.

Pas sûr que tu devrais vivre les mauvaises expériences que j'ai vécues... pas plus que celles de Metro666.
 
look at the two next links for slavery in 1500s +

http://www.brycchancarey.com/slavery/index.htm
http://etymonline.com/columns/frenchslavery.htm

guess who made those settlements?
Sailors?? Rofl

watch some movies about slave labour and then understand who your decendances are as a proud quebecer or canadian


as for the haitians or any other nationality sneaking into a country of freedom come on in.

If they were coming from France and they were not Black in color ... we would not have any issues right?? Ahh your stomach feels that pain it is called the truth.

if you're going to bring up slavery, please get your facts straight, and then we'll talk. how did an African man end up being a slave? look it up on google. every article brings up the first slave voyage of 1619 when the first slaves were brought over. what about before? nobody knows. where did those slaves grow up? was it an act of god? did God say 'let there be slaves' and they simply appeared on the ship fully grown?

find out who was enslaving the Africans, and after that we'll talk. sorry, google won't help you. all it tells you is the fact that slave traders were bringing them to America. they were traders, not the enslavers. there's a distinction to be made. the question here is who was taking the people roaming freely in Africa and turning them into slaves and then trading them away?
 
you really did not pay attention in class.
The natives taught the 'founders of canada' how to hunt because they had no knowledge of killing large animals, just birds.
They were told to use the bird meat to feed their horses to make the horses stronger to pull heavier weight in the snow.
Also taught them snow shoes, how to climb mountains, to make teepees and make shelters out of 4 trees and 3 pelts.

Productive society ?
bring all the sailors here to the new world, as well as 2000 slaves from traded parties, we found a place were we can bang as many women as possible, take land, kill everything in site and smoke weed all day long.

You really think you know history here?

What a load of bullshit.
 
J'ai lu en diagonale mais j'en conclu ce thread est tellement plein de marde!

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I wished you guys really new true facts. Trying to show you.
I apologize if you are offended by knowing facts.
 
For sure there is some beliefs that have merit.
Our system was not 'just' damaged, if you feel that way where have you been for the last 15 years when it was stated there was a problem ... guess no one pays attention when problems are in front of you (not u personally) it is easier to bitch to the opponent running against you.

We knew 20 years ago that eventually our system will get plagued. Medicare suffering because 1200 doctors and nurses left because of talks of separation ... remember that??

15-20 years ago I was too young to truly understand what was going on and ever since I've become aware I've general held the same position. Not even in my youth was I a bleeding heart liberal hell bent on stealing other peoples money to distribute it to wasteful causes.
 
Nobody in here including me are mature enough to talk about this lmao.

I wouldn't say so, it's just the forum is a shit medium for debating. Writing walls of text takes a long time and usually people skim through it anyways.

Also, and I'm guilty of this, because I know what I write won't really be properly reflected upon and rebutted I usually end up half assing a post.
 
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