Rejjy
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Je pourrais juste pas me permettre un char de 70k avec du kilométrage comme ça.
68 323km sur 8 ans ça fait que 8540km/ année , j'trouve pas que c'est beaucoup de kilométrage.
Je pourrais juste pas me permettre un char de 70k avec du kilométrage comme ça.
Not faster? Dude, where have you been? Driven anything modern lately?
Modern vehicles are so fast these days it's ridiculous.
An Integra GS-R used to be a "fast car" 20 years ago. It takes 7.4 seconds to get to 100kmh according to the 1999 Guide de l'auto. This was significantly faster than most new cars on the road back in the day. The V6 accord coupe (auto) was listed at 8.4s. V6 Camry at 9 and 4 cylinder camry at 11.7s.
Fast forward to now and it gets spanked by a Ford Escape 2.0T (6.8 - 7.1) or ginormous super crew F-150 (5.7 (2.7TT) to 6.3 (5.0) according to some tests on the internet. These are perennial best sellers. They're what joe public is driving off the lots in.
That F-150 would likely be neck and neck/slightly faster than a first Gen VW R32 "hot hatch"
Audi claims 5.6 seconds 0-60mph for the mainstream 2019 2.0T A4. The 2018 2.0T accord was tested at 5.7 and the 2018 v6 Camry at 5.8 by motor trend.
Let that sink in for a second. These are your average midsize sedans...
One of the few vehicles I've seen go "down in power / up in size" is the new VW Tiguan. The new model is "down" to 184hp from 200hp in the name of efficiency. I'm sure it has no issues performing DD duties even at that lesser power level.
Those midsize sedans are 35-40k, they aren't really your average car. If you look at the Quebec market, people actually buy 1.8l CVT Qashqais and 140-160hp compact cars. My Elentra has 150 (korean) hp, but with the automacrap transmission and extra weight, it's hardly faster than a good old Civic 1.6l in real life, especially en reprise since there's no kickdown switch under the pedal. I'm sure that the 0-100 is a second faster on paper, but in real life the difference isn't that big.
Fusibles!Je suis puzzle ben raide avec ma voiture.
Va au travail... Reviens. Tombe en vacance, arrive partir... Char part pas.
Pas de check engine, la fuel pump start, j'ai même craquer l'écrou du filtre à essence et ça coule quand je mets la clef à on. Mon timing est bon (la base est a tdc et la tête est aligner, donc oui la timing belt est la a pas skipper de dents)
J'ai vu du spark (tester seulement sur le 4eme cylindre par ce que je suis tout seul.
Mon distributeur a les bonnes valeurs de résistance.
Mes spark plugs sont encore correct mais sont du dans pas long...
Mes injecteurs ont tous 12v quand la clef est à on.
Mes plugs d'ordi sont ultra clean, zero corrosion.
Mes 3 grounds sont bien (thermostat, transmission et valve cover)
J'ai même ajouté un ground pour tester...
Civic eg 95 ben ben stock
35k-40k c'est rendu pas mal le prix d'un average car me semble.
Et je comprends pas ta dernière affirmation.
Une seconde de différence sur un 0-100 , cest énorme.
C'est clair que tu le ressens "in real life".
Je suis puzzle ben raide avec ma voiture.
Va au travail... Reviens. Tombe en vacance, arrive partir... Char part pas.
Pas de check engine, la fuel pump start, j'ai même craquer l'écrou du filtre à essence et ça coule quand je mets la clef à on. Mon timing est bon (la base est a tdc et la tête est aligner, donc oui la timing belt est la a pas skipper de dents)
J'ai vu du spark (tester seulement sur le 4eme cylindre par ce que je suis tout seul.
Mon distributeur a les bonnes valeurs de résistance.
Mes spark plugs sont encore correct mais sont du dans pas long...
Mes injecteurs ont tous 12v quand la clef est à on.
Mes plugs d'ordi sont ultra clean, zero corrosion.
Mes 3 grounds sont bien (thermostat, transmission et valve cover)
J'ai même ajouté un ground pour tester...
Civic eg 95 ben ben stock
Finalement le spark etait weak... J'ai retester avec un outil puis j'ai juste pus de feu...
Those midsize sedans are 35-40k, they aren't really your average car. If you look at the Quebec market, people actually buy 1.8l CVT Qashqais and 140-160hp compact cars. My Elentra has 150 (korean) hp, but with the automacrap transmission and extra weight, it's hardly faster than a good old Civic 1.6l in real life, especially en reprise since there's no kickdown switch under the pedal. I'm sure that the 0-100 is a second faster on paper, but in real life the difference isn't that big.
Average civic has the 2.0, not the 1.5t. I get your point, but real life performance improvements aren't as good as they make it seem on paper imo, especially when we compare NA vs NA and not NA vs turbo.36k was the average car price in Canada last year...
Besides, every category has seen significant increases in power. The average EK civic had 106hp and 103 lb.ft of torque. The common 1.5T now has 174 and 162lb.ft of torque. It's gone from a 9.2 second (stick shift) down to 6.8 with the CVT. It's obvious the automatic civic from back then was even slower. More so if it's not a 3d hatch. There's a significant difference there I'd say.
Jeep Wranglers with the almighty 4.0L had 180hp. They have 285 now. It used to take 8.6 second from 0-100, now it's 6.1 on a stick shift 2 door v6. We're not talking about a vehicle whose purpose was ever about speed and I'm comparing the old "top" motor to the new base motor. I'm sure the comparison between an old dodge caravan and the new ones would show a significant difference in performance as well.
New cars get better performance and do so in a quieter, more controlled manner. It doesn't feel as if we're going as fast or working the car as hard. They're also much safer.
Confession que a chaque fois que je regarde bien vite une BMW génération E3X de profil, je pense a une Tercel!
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Not faster? Dude, where have you been? Driven anything modern lately?
Modern vehicles are so fast these days it's ridiculous.
An Integra GS-R used to be a "fast car" 20 years ago. It takes 7.4 seconds to get to 100kmh according to the 1999 Guide de l'auto. This was significantly faster than most new cars on the road back in the day. The V6 accord coupe (auto) was listed at 8.4s. V6 Camry at 9 and 4 cylinder camry at 11.7s.
Fast forward to now and it gets spanked by a Ford Escape 2.0T (6.8 - 7.1) or ginormous super crew F-150 (5.7 (2.7TT) to 6.3 (5.0) according to some tests on the internet. These are perennial best sellers. They're what joe public is driving off the lots in.
That F-150 would likely be neck and neck/slightly faster than a first Gen VW R32 "hot hatch"
Audi claims 5.6 seconds 0-60mph for the mainstream 2019 2.0T A4. The 2018 2.0T accord was tested at 5.7 and the 2018 v6 Camry at 5.8 by motor trend.
Let that sink in for a second. These are your average midsize sedans...
One of the few vehicles I've seen go "down in power / up in size" is the new VW Tiguan. The new model is "down" to 184hp from 200hp in the name of efficiency. I'm sure it has no issues performing DD duties even at that lesser power level.
And Broody's post refers more to the types of cars I'm taking about. I often check specs on new cars and see 0-60 times of 8-9 seconds.. Just can't believe anything coming out these days is that slow.
An Integra GSR was never fast by any standard. A 1997 Camry V6 5 Speed did 0-60 in 7 flat with 194hp. Sure a V6 Camry does it in 5.8 now but it needs 301hp to do it. The 203hp Camry XLE now needs 7.6 seconds to get to 60, with technology that's 22 years newer.
totally agree. but despite the relative slowness of yesterday's Integra GSR, I still find it's one of the best looking sport compacts ever to come out of Japan.The only stragglers are economy cars and subcompacts. Their price hasn't increased as fast as other segments either. These buyers want safety and a low cost of entry. Can't have top shelf performance too.
The GS-R was very much a mainstream performance car back in the days. It would trounce the overwhelming majority of cars on the road back then and most of it's competitors. (240sx, VR6 VW, Celica GT-S) J-Body Cavaliers were 9-12 second cars. So were most vans. Utility vehicles and trucks were in the 10-12 second range. There weren't many cars out on the road that could take it on, let alone outrun it.
Fast forward to today and a bone stock GSR should probably think twice before "racing" against a dodge grand caravan from enterprise rent a car.