You can't really say the west island or laval (maybe some small areas) is a shithole
a shithole to me is when you have visible crackheads/drug addicts/escorts that your kids can visibly see on a daily
the west/laval has its issues, and verdun/lasalle/lachine have their issues as well.... but once you start having kids, the problems from the west/laval become insignificant
remember, if your kids go to a public school, they end up bringing some of those crackhead parents kids home with them as friends
not saying all the parents in the west are amazing and great, but I'll take my chances
that's why we sold in LaSalle and bought in DDO
I grew up in Lasalle myself till I was 16 before we moved to the west
To your point though, it'll change with time, but never in a million years would I have the patience of just saying "Ya my tires got slashed... oh well...."
As for Ville St Pierre, LOL! we have a distant friend that bought there with his wife and twins (two little girls)... I told my wife WTF hasn't he just driven around before buying?!? 12 months later, SOLD