Doctor beaten to death with a hammer in Alberta.

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chris_fiesta

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Holy shit. What a horrifying way to die. Can't imagine living through this and not being able to defend yourself. I know the issue here is is mental health, but I can't stop thinking about how differently this could've turned out if law abiding citizens like this physician had the right to conceal carry. Thoughts to his family which will never understand who could to that to someone who swore an oath to help and heal other people.

Discuss.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/red-deer-clinic-doctor-attacked-1.5681052
 
chris_fiesta said:
Holy shit. What a horrifying way to die. Can't imagine living through this and not being able to defend yourself. I know the issue here is is mental health, but I can't stop thinking about how differently this could've turned out if law abiding citizens like this physician had the right to conceal carry. Thoughts to his family which will never understand who could to that to someone who swore an oath to help and heal other people.

Discuss.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/red-deer-clinic-doctor-attacked-1.5681052
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Pretty sure you're not gonna whip out your glock after taking an estwing to the cranium.
 
chris_fiesta said:
H but I can't stop thinking about how differently this could've turned out if law abiding citizens like this physician had the right to conceal carry.
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Ouvre cette porte là et l'assaillant va se pointer avec un gun au lieu d'une machette. L'escalade d'outils meurtriers n'est pas la solution.
 
^yeah curious about, especially since he apparently had a smug on his face as he was being escorted out... fuck...
 
Carbon_Blue_GT said:
Ouvre cette porte là et l'assaillant va se pointer avec un gun au lieu d'une machette. L'escalade d'outils meurtriers n'est pas la solution.
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Faque c'est quoi la solution pour que ce médecin là ou n'importe quel d'entre nous puisse se proteger de qqun avec des problèmes mentaux sévères comme lui?
Garocher encore plus de milliard au systeme de santé?

lord_galathon said:
But why though?
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Clairement qqun avec des troubles mentaux sévères qui n'aime pas ce faire dire non
 
chris_fiesta said:
Faque c'est quoi la solution pour que ce médecin là ou n'importe quel d'entre nous puisse se proteger de qqun avec des problèmes mentaux sévères comme lui?
Garocher encore plus de milliard au systeme de santé?
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Je n'ai pas de solution miracle puisqu'en ce moment on peut bien emmener une machette et faire des dommages dans bien des endroits, mais puisque 99.999999% de la population ne le fait pas, je sais une chose au moins, c'est que la solution ne réside pas dans le open carry for all et de créer un bien plus gros problème pour des cas d'exception.
 
Carrying a pistol in a doctor's office probably wouldn't do much. The rooms are super small and effective retention would be a PITA when conducting examinations. Ie it would potentially get in the way of proper care. It's probably hard to focus on listening to someone's heart or lungs while you're blading your body to keep your pistol out of reach and have to be ready and willing to fight to the death in order to retain it. Lots of family doctors are on the older / meeker side usually.

Who was the perpetrator of the deadliest mass shooting on an american millitary base? A Doctor. (psychiatrist)

So nah, not a magical solution. That might just given the crazy dude a hammer AND a pistol.

Environmental design would probably be more effective. (physical barrier, panic button, etc.)

It's a pretty rare occurence and these can't all be prevented. There's no shortage of people with a screw loose.
 
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Je ne comprends pad le geste mais je comprends encore moins pourquoi ça vire en discussion sur le port d'arme à feu.
 
Broody said:
Je ne comprends pad le geste mais je comprends encore moins pourquoi ça vire en discussion sur le port d'arme à feu.
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Parce que, avec le port d'arme, s'il y avait eu quelqu'un avec une arme à feu chargée, le médecin aurait eu la vie sauve et l'assaillant sera déjà décédé.

Me semble que tu devrais comprendre la logique MR depuis que t'es ici! lol
 
kahos said:
Carrying a pistol in a doctor's office probably wouldn't do much. The rooms are super small and effective retention would be a PITA when conducting examinations. Ie it would potentially get in the way of proper care. It's probably hard to focus on listening to someone's heart or lungs while you're blading your body to keep your pistol out of reach and have to be ready and willing to fight to the death in order to retain it. Lots of family doctors are on the older / meeker side usually.

Who was the perpetrator of the deadliest mass shooting on an american millitary base? A Doctor. (psychiatrist)

So nah, not a magical solution. That might just given the crazy dude a hammer AND a pistol.

Environmental design would probably be more effective. (physical barrier, panic button, etc.)

It's a pretty rare occurence and these can't all be prevented. There's no shortage of people with a screw loose.
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Ya beaucoup de medecins avec des troubles psychologiques. La personne qui a le plus besoin d'un garde du corp, c'est le patient a l'interieur de son bureau.
 
HeavyMetal said:
Parce que, avec le port d'arme, s'il y avait eu quelqu'un avec une arme à feu chargée, le médecin aurait eu la vie sauve et l'assaillant sera déjà décédé.

Me semble que tu devrais comprendre la logique MR depuis que t'es ici! lol
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Sauf que le gars aurait pas eu un marteau/machete.
 
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