stanto
New member
Hello!
(pour mes amis francophones, mes excuses mais je m'exprime mieux en anglais et il faut que je puisse donner tous les détails importants.)
I got a stop sign ticket the other day.
I don't care that much about the fine but I'd rather not loose the dimerit points.
I did stop but significantly (3 meters ??) before the stop line.
I couldn't find anywhere online the max distance behind the line that it would still be considered as a valid full stop.
After the stop, i turned right and the cop was on that (cross) street but on my left side. He was parked significantly behind the intersection.
Because of that fact, and due to bushes on the corner of the intersection, he could (probably) see the stop "line" but not much behind it.
I took pictures, but obviously I can't prove where the cop was parked and hence that his point of view was distracted and couldn't see further behind my stop line.
The graphic can help explain the situation much better....
https://ibb.co/G2sCSN3
My questions are:
1. Where can i find the max distance allowed behind the stop line to be considered a full stop?
2. I've read on the forum about negotiating with the prosecutor and maybe reducing the fine+points but that can fit on speeding tickets by applying a lower amount of "going over". In my case it's a stop. I can't think of how to "lower" the fine+points. Do I have a chance of maybe paying the full fine but not getting the demerit points?
3. Is it worth going to court? Even with the pictures that I took I can't prove where the cop was parked and hence how much his field of view was affected.
Thanks in advance!
PS: I have full points right now, so this is not about risking my license (knock on wood).
(pour mes amis francophones, mes excuses mais je m'exprime mieux en anglais et il faut que je puisse donner tous les détails importants.)
I got a stop sign ticket the other day.
I don't care that much about the fine but I'd rather not loose the dimerit points.
I did stop but significantly (3 meters ??) before the stop line.
I couldn't find anywhere online the max distance behind the line that it would still be considered as a valid full stop.
After the stop, i turned right and the cop was on that (cross) street but on my left side. He was parked significantly behind the intersection.
Because of that fact, and due to bushes on the corner of the intersection, he could (probably) see the stop "line" but not much behind it.
I took pictures, but obviously I can't prove where the cop was parked and hence that his point of view was distracted and couldn't see further behind my stop line.
The graphic can help explain the situation much better....
https://ibb.co/G2sCSN3
My questions are:
1. Where can i find the max distance allowed behind the stop line to be considered a full stop?
2. I've read on the forum about negotiating with the prosecutor and maybe reducing the fine+points but that can fit on speeding tickets by applying a lower amount of "going over". In my case it's a stop. I can't think of how to "lower" the fine+points. Do I have a chance of maybe paying the full fine but not getting the demerit points?
3. Is it worth going to court? Even with the pictures that I took I can't prove where the cop was parked and hence how much his field of view was affected.
Thanks in advance!
PS: I have full points right now, so this is not about risking my license (knock on wood).