2023 Audi RS3

Wally West

Wally West

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L'Europe la recoit en automne cette année, mais l'amérique la recoit un an apres comme modele 2023. Afin d'éviter la confusion, j,ai utilisé 2023 dans le titre.

Bref, Audi a montrer la voiture aujourd'hui avec encore du camouflage.
Les changements:
-La nouvelle RS3 va avoir le même différentiel arrière que la nouvelle Golf R.
-400hp (au lieu de 394hp)
-Drift Mode
-Dual Clutch rear differential (comme dans la nouvelle Golf R)
-0-100kmh in 3.8sec



note: En europe ils ont maintenant un filtre anti-particale dans l'exhaust pour les voitures a essence (GPF: Gasoline Particulate Filter), donc la voiture fait beaucoup moins de son. En théorie, on ne devrait pas avoir ce filtre ici.
 
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moi, tant que ca fait descendre le prix de la première gen, il peuvent en importer en masse :)

Je suis pas convaincu du changement de diff arrière, quand celui présentement est assez solide, le temps nous dira si c’était un bon move.
 
mrdouble99 said:
moi, tant que ca fait descendre le prix de la première gen, il peuvent en importer en masse :)

Je suis pas convaincu du changement de diff arrière, quand celui présentement est assez solide, le temps nous dira si c’était un bon move.
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Ça dépends ce que tu veux, si tu veux du gros power et faire de la drag, tu as peut être raison, si tu veux la voiture qui se comporte le mieux, it's the way to go

J'ai hâte de la voir sans le wrap.
 
Rob_SeR said:
Ça dépends ce que tu veux, si tu veux du gros power et faire de la drag, tu as peut être raison, si tu veux la voiture qui se comporte le mieux, it's the way to go

J'ai hâte de la voir sans le wrap.
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On devrait voir sans le wrap bientot selon un autre channel.
 
J'ai regardé encore le video, je suis un peu inquiet de la portion du devant autour de la grille principale, ils ont wrappé ça d'une autre couleur, j'espère qu'ils ont pas mis ça tout gloss black...!
 
AlpineWhiteDub said:
Fuck me.. Tu viens de m'apprendre de quoi. J'ai jonglé longtemps entre Evora et TT RS mon homme
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t'a un bien meilleur sport car dans la Evora. Manuel + mid engine + lightweight. Toujours trouvé la TT-RS un peu weird, c'est comme comme un faux sport car. Tout les désaventages du sport car sans vraiment avoir les avantages
 
Rob_SeR said:
J'ai regardé encore le video, je suis un peu inquiet de la portion du devant auraout de la grille principale, ils ont wrappé ça d'une autre couleur, j'espère qu'ils ont pas mis ça tout gloss black...!
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Fait moi pas des peurs comme ça! En regardant ça de plus prêt, le bumper de la RS3 semble être en deux parties comparé à celui de la S3... Je crois que tu as raison et qu'ils vont faire comme la RSQ8:
https://www.audi.ca/ca/web/en/models/q8/rsq8.html
 
Rob_SeR said:
t'a un bien meilleur sport car dans la Evora. Manuel + mid engine + lightweight. Toujours trouvé la TT-RS un peu weird, c'est comme comme un faux sport car. Tout les désaventages du sport car sans vraiment avoir les avantages
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Voilà. J'avais trop peur de me retrouvé dans une Gold R... J'aurais vraiment préféré une Evora 400 minimum mais je suis hyper satisfait, juste en manque de temps de la prendre... Au moins elle reste low millage haha
 
Rob_SeR said:
exactement ce que je voyais, la partie du centre semble une autre partie, comme s'ils voulaient la mettre d'une autre couleur :(
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Sur le RSQ8 c'est du carbon fiber par contre! C'est mieux que du gloss black!!

edit: sa pourrais etre du gloss black aussi, regarde les rentré d'air exterieur du front bumper, il y a un morceau vertical qui est en gloss black alors que sur la RSQ8 c'est du carbon fiber. Aussi, en haut du diffuser c'est du gloss black :/. Mais, le fait qu'il cache cette partie et pas les autres pourrais dire du carbon fiber.
 
I know it will be an unpopular opinion, but what Audi is/have been doing with the "quattro" setup on the MQB RS cars is shameful. RS cars should 100% be RWD bias. Cheapening the RS moniker and still charging top dollar for "fake quattro" is gross. How can you have 5 different versions of the quattro AWD? And before someone tells me that the Haldex/torque converter systems are seamless and undetectable, I assure you as someone that had a 2015 STI, then a 2018 Golf R, and is now back in a 2020 STI, the AWD shortcomings and on/off-ness is definitely noticeable.
 
En!vy said:
I know it will be an unpopular opinion, but what Audi is/have been doing with the "quattro" setup on the MQB RS cars is shameful. RS cars should 100% be RWD bias. Cheapening the RS moniker and still charging top dollar for "fake quattro" is gross. How can you have 5 different versions of the quattro AWD? And before someone tells me that the Haldex/torque converter systems are seamless and undetectable, I assure you as someone that had a 2015 STI, then a 2018 Golf R, and is now back in a 2020 STI, the AWD shortcomings and on/off-ness is definitely noticeable.
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You are entitled to your opinion. I owned both the "real" and "fake" quattro and I think the torsen system is highly overated. I'd even go as far as saying the haldex is more stable and more predictable during winter time.

I'll give you one thing though, both do feel different, but both are fun and gets the job done pretty well. Both systems have their own advantages.
 
The firing order on the side of the "camo" is a nice touch.

En!vy said:
I know it will be an unpopular opinion, but what Audi is/have been doing with the "quattro" setup on the MQB RS cars is shameful. RS cars should 100% be RWD bias. Cheapening the RS moniker and still charging top dollar for "fake quattro" is gross. How can you have 5 different versions of the quattro AWD? And before someone tells me that the Haldex/torque converter systems are seamless and undetectable, I assure you as someone that had a 2015 STI, then a 2018 Golf R, and is now back in a 2020 STI, the AWD shortcomings and on/off-ness is definitely noticeable.
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I never quite understood the RS3.

A3? Sure. S3? Why not. They already got the platform / tech for the Golf R. Why not? But why shoehorn a transverse 5 cylinders in there? I know it sounds glorious and it's wicked fast, but It's not the "right" layout. That would irk me.

If it were my money I'd skip the RS3 and "settle" for an S4. Obviously not quite as playful or fast but sounds like it'd be a better car to live with.
 
Rob_SeR said:
You are entitled to your opinion. I owned both the "real" and "fake" quattro and I think the torsen system is highly overated. I'd even go as far as saying the haldex is more stable and more predictable during winter time.

I'll give you one thing though, both do feel different, but both are fun and gets the job done pretty well. Both systems have their own advantages.
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In my experience the way FWD-bias Haldex type systems are implemented and paired with torque vectoring cause unnecessary and premature brake wear (among other things) in order to correct vehicle rotation at speed. IMO it's a cheap way to approach AWD in which the manufacturers hide behind safety features that pass vehicle costs on to the end user needlessly. BMW has no problem implementing a cost effective RWD bias AWD clutch pack system in their "sports" cars to retain the rear propulsion feel. The FWD bias AWD setups are strictly reserved for the bottom of their car line up. I won't beat a dead horse, but Audi should be raked over the coals for selling any RS car with a FWD bias setup.
 
i'm not a fan of brake torque vectoring either, although it seems like they did a gread job to have a real torque vectoring diff on this RS3, similar to the sport diff I had in my S4.

From the presentation, it seems like there are modes that should behave a lot like a RWD driven plateform. Of course that's a lot of marketing, we'll have to see how it translates into reality when it gets here.
 
En!vy said:
In my experience the way FWD-bias Haldex type systems are implemented and paired with torque vectoring cause unnecessary and premature brake wear (among other things) in order to correct vehicle rotation at speed. IMO it's a cheap way to approach AWD in which the manufacturers hide behind safety features that pass vehicle costs on to the end user needlessly. BMW has no problem implementing a cost effective RWD bias AWD clutch pack system in their "sports" cars to retain the rear propulsion feel. The FWD bias AWD setups are strictly reserved for the bottom of their car line up. I won't beat a dead horse, but Audi should be raked over the coals for selling any RS car with a FWD bias setup.
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Actually the brake wear issue is what happen when you don't have real LSD's and there is "torque vectoring", either RWD, FWD or AWD. The same is true for ABS, traction and stability control.
 
Je me demande comment le diff arrière va réagir sur piste et/ou au modification. Le système utilisé semble générer beaucoup de chaleur. Les Focus RS avaient pas un problème de surchauffe du diff sur piste justement?
 
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