A question about crypto mining

SpeedBen said:
Tu ne discutes pas et n'est pas objectif dans tes réponses, tu es comme un preacher qui la ramène toujours à la même place.

Ceci dit je respecte ton opinion et te souhaite bonne chance dans tes défis futurs.
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est-ou ta question ?
 
ziploc said:
Actually, yes and no; on a point of view of a trader, I'm a free rider like mentioned above
On a point of view of the Tech, yes maybe; Cryptos are so much MORE than an asset or currency, it's whole revolutionary ecosystem, just read about it and you will understand.
It's not for nothing that some tech and since not longtime even bankers and even GOVs and countries are starting to advocate for it....I might have their credibility, but I also I'm taking into consideration their idead but mostly the EVOLUTION of it..
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You mix the blockchain system with the "money". Gov't and corporations are not into anything related to currencies. Bitcoin is not affected at all by the use of blockchain in governments and corporations as they are completely unrelated aside from the code behind them. So why would you investment in currencies be affected by that?

What will change the world is the blockch and other (like tangle) ledger systems. It will be everywhere and has started already in many large corporations, insurance brokers, etc.

They never use of for currency but only as a ledger.

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MrSpace said:
You mix the blockchain system with the "money". Gov't and corporations are not into anything related to currencies. Bitcoin is not affected at all by the use of blockchain in governments and corporations as they are completely unrelated aside from the code behind them. So why would you investment in currencies be affected by that?

What will change the world is the blockch and other (like tangle) ledger systems. It will be everywhere and has started already in many large corporations, insurance brokers, etc.

They never use of for currency but only as a ledger.

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It is and it will be, because of the idea, the adoption which is increasing in numerous manners, and it gives the credibility to the tech itself and to the BTC.

Like someone said trust have and perception, comfort of using are the psychological aspects that will affect the growth.

If the cryptos are more used, as currency, as wealth storage, as investment vehicles (funds, derivatives and others) as ledgers, different kind of applications, this will give the technology more credibility and exposure. And the simplest way to understand / use of cryptos is money related functions.

Therefore if any of these increase, it will automatically increase the value of the crypto wold.

The BTC is know as a father or main crypto and have it's own advantages and it's the one most known, that's why it will grow first.

Ledger use it's another one that can be fairly easy understood, but still it's using the same underlying technology.

And that underlying tech is the intrinsic value of the cryptos.

Each person, each region, each country may have their reasons to use or not the cryptos, but we know that reason to do so are way more predominant.
And more and more users, more and more adoption will equal more and more awareness, more and more ease or comfort in use, more and more adoption, more and more trust, which leads to demand.

And because for instance BTC is "inflation resistant" it's value is fated to raise.

And there will be others that will follow the same path......for sure some will die, some are scams, few might survive but the ones that will, will surprise many.

That's why I said choose well.


and btw, some businesses are using crypto for wealth moving and nowadays what's the difference between "our Fiat electronic money"...because we live in a mostly cashless society and cryptos..?
it's mostly the control of that money which belongs to whom ? Gov's and Corps...? BTC is not controlled by anyone which is also 1 of it's appealing points
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Last thing; would you rather invest in ex:
Morgan Stanley's of crypto
or
in crypto itself ie: BTC ?

Answer that question for yourself and answer it before you still have time ;)
 
WHy would cryptos value raise if the technology under it gets popular?

Companies will not pay people to mine and check private transactions.. they won't "buy" BTCs or other currency, they are completely independant from the BTC blockchain or any other cryptocurrency

The BTC is exactly like any other precious metal or commodity, you buy it in hopes that it will raise in value because other wants to buy it at a higher price. Not like a stock or anything that has fundamental backing with revenues, profits, underlying assets, etc.
 
MrSpace said:
WHy would cryptos value raise if the technology under it gets popular?

Companies will not pay people to mine and check private transactions.. they won't "buy" BTCs or other currency, they are completely independant from the BTC blockchain or any other cryptocurrency

The BTC is exactly like any other precious metal or commodity, you buy it in hopes that it will raise in value because other wants to buy it at a higher price. Not like a stock or anything that has fundamental backing with revenues, profits, underlying assets, etc.
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1st - people will buy it, take just as example what's happening in Venezuela....if you want to preserve your wealth how do you do it ?

2nd- not true...yes but not only....BTC is a ledger you can use it as you want...others have some other utilities like ETH which is like an online computer and can process code...etc.
who prevents you from using it a legal ledger storage for public records...?

For sure a corporation will try to push it's own before advocating for another....and your point of view is similar to the Corp's.....but you forget that there's 7.5 billion people on this planet.

Some have a purely trading view of cryptos there's a place for that too
Some have a investor view
Some Corporation view
Some Gov's views
Some of poor country without banking system
Some of collapsing country like Venezuela
Some shady business
Some are from countries without liberties and that GOV controls everything
Some are only interested in a tech aspect of it
Some only as a wealth creation medium
etc.

but when you add all those it's certain that the adoption will increase and you know what will follow
 
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ziploc said:
1st - people will buy it, take just as example what's happening in Venezuela....if you want to preserve your wealth how do you do it ?
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Physical Gold.

Has an over 2000 year track record and not about to stop any time soon.

Back in the days of ancient Rome, one ounce bought a man a full set of formal attire, and today one ounce buys a nice suit, shirt, belt, socks and shoes.

That's true wealth preservation. Problem starts when people think they'll make money off of gold. Sure you might get a favorable swing in your lifetime but really it should be used to combat inflation not to make money.
 
250Rocket said:
Physical Gold.

Has an over 2000 year track record and not about to stop any time soon.

Back in the days of ancient Rome, one ounce bought a man a full set of formal attire, and today one ounce buys a nice suit, shirt, belt, socks and shoes.

That's true wealth preservation. Problem starts when people think they'll make money off of gold. Sure you might get a favorable swing in your lifetime but really it should be used to combat inflation not to make money.
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Try to buy large amounts of gold, transport and hold it.....then sell it...unless you buy it trough some kind of found....but hey it might be a scam...

It's not that easy as you think, unless you buy a bit of overpriced jewelry...
 
ziploc said:
Try to buy large amounts of gold, transport and hold it.....then sell it...unless you buy it trough some kind of found....but hey it might be a scam...

It's not that easy as you think, unless you buy a bit of overpriced jewelry...
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lol, dude... just trade XAUUSD..... it's ridiculously easy ;)
 
ziploc said:
Try to buy large amounts of gold, transport and hold it.....then sell it...unless you buy it trough some kind of found....but hey it might be a scam...

It's not that easy as you think, unless you buy a bit of overpriced jewelry...
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https://online.kitco.com/buy/2014RCM/1-kg-Gold-Royal-Canadian-Mint-Bar-9999-2014RCM

Kitco has an office 2 minutes walk from Place Ville Marie. It might take a special order but @ $52k most people here would be good with 1 bar considering you want about 5-10% of you total wealth.

Even if you were rich and went full apocalypse got 20 bars, you could still fit them all in a shoe box. It would be heavy as hell at 20kg but it's not like you need a forklift.

!Xobile said:
lol, dude... just trade XAUUSD..... it's ridiculously easy ;)
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Defeats the purpose IMO. Gold/Silver is a hedge for when SHTF. Unless you hold it, it's worthless. XAU is only good for traders and RE: my earlier comment, metals are one of the worst investment to make money. Go buy dividend paying equities instead.
 
!Xobile said:
lol, dude... just trade XAUUSD..... it's ridiculously easy ;)
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unless you buy it trough some kind of found....but hey it might be a scam...

same argument as some are using for BTC..who would buy XAU="virtual Gold"....the fund might be a scam...;)

Right on the spot:

Ex-UBS Trader Accused by U.S. of Manipulating Precious Metals Prices
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https://washpost.bloomberg.com/Story?docId=1376-OW84CB6S972801-5OCP9O42IOT1M3881ICVO25P0R

“Flotron and his co-conspirators placed one or more large orders for precious metals futures contracts on one side of the market which, at the time Flotron and his co-conspirators placed the orders, they intended to cancel before execution,” according to the complaint filed in Connecticut.

While the spoof orders were pending, Flotron and his confederates often executed smaller orders on the opposite side of the market to try to profit from the price movement they caused, prosecutors alleged in the complaint.
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resume nous ca un peu....ce sont quoi tes raisons...je suis super busy mais peut etre interesse..merci
 
ziploc said:
resume nous ca un peu....ce sont quoi tes raisons...je suis super busy mais peut etre interesse..merci
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Ce n'est rien de "nouveau" mais il y a tout un buzz autour de l'ICO et ils ont quand même de bonnes idée comme le mining via app mobile en plus de PC.

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Boulard83 said:
Ce n'est rien de "nouveau" mais il y a tout un buzz autour de l'ICO et ils ont quand même de bonnes idée comme le mining via app mobile en plus de PC.



Le ICO est commencé depuis ~3 heures et ils ont déjà 500k$ de ramassé. Pour les 7 premier jours c'est 50% bonus coin ( 51% si tu passe par mon referal ;) ) à l'achat. Le ICO termine le 31 October 2017. L'app mobile de mining sera lancé le lendemain.
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Merci j'ai vu pour le cellphone mining..c'Est special mais si ca fonctionne..ca risque de marcher...

je vais checker ca
 
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