I’ve often found the “prenegotiated” prices to still have a lot of meat left on the bone.
Thanks for the suggestions, I’d go see myself but I’m currently not in the neighbourhood. Will call next week, thanks guys!
Ps: my father inlaw has always been the type of person salesmen love, never haggles and the last couple of leases (MB and Lexus) he was taken to the dry cleaners and I’m sick of seeing this happen to him.