Matt_mg
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why hang on to the golan heights ?
Because they are heights and jackasses like to shoot makeshift missiles at civilians from them.
why hang on to the golan heights ?
why hang on to the golan heights ?
90% of the land israel won through war since 1967 was returned to the respective countries, with the exception of the golan heights among others. Israel offered the land back to syria just a few days after the end of the war, in exchange for a peace agreement between the two nations. However, Syria REJECTED this offer in light of the Khartoum Resolution procured during the 1967 Arab League Summit, through which the syrians declared the famous 3 NOs. NO peace with israel, NO recognition of israel and NO negotiations with israel.
THIS IS A MYTH. LOL I LOVE IT WHEN PEOPLE SAY THIS. Israel didn't spend huge amount of dollars on a war and years of planning and lose 1000 soldiers for a peace agreement. They never took the idea seriously of giving the land back for peace treaties. It was their rhetoric for international support because it couldn't have been more illegal. Look up "war of attrition with Egypt". Why was egypt bombing the bar lev line for 3 years? Isreal wasn't talking. They took Sinai, Golani and the West Bank and they cut off all communication with the arabs. Everything else is bull shit.
The reason why Isreal still has the Golan Heights and WILL NEVER GIVE IT BACK TO SYRIA is because of the Jordan River. Without it, Isrealis will have no water and dehydrate to death. It's their only source of drinking water.
They don't want to give back the west bank because of a geographic military advantage. Israel has a policy of battle readiness which means that 365 days a year, 24/7 they are ready to sustain a full frontal attack. It's how they guarantee the safety of their land. If the west bank isn't under their control, it takes exactly 1 hour and 15 minutes to drive from the border of the west bank to tel aviv. They can't ensure battle readiness with such a small distance. Even worse are air strikes. A jet could hover the border and then bomb tel aviv and back before they can scramble any jets to intercept.
When Israel controlled Sinai for 15 years, they looked for oil everywhere. Millions of dollars of exploration. You know that gulf between sinai and saudia arabia was closed land thousands of years ago? Most of Saudi oil is in the north west part of the country. Oil comes fome fossil fuels. Do the math.
Why the fuck would Isreal offer the lands back if it attacked first? They started the war in 1967. This is fact. Egypt had troops in the Sinai because the russians gave them false intelligence (Which the mossad had to do with) that Israel was going to attack. Then Israel used the deployement of troops in Sinai as a reason to attack.
THIS IS A MYTH. LOL I LOVE IT WHEN PEOPLE SAY THIS. Israel didn't spend huge amount of dollars on a war and years of planning and lose 1000 soldiers for a peace agreement. They never took the idea seriously of giving the land back for peace treaties. It was their rhetoric for international support because it couldn't have been more illegal. Look up "war of attrition with Egypt". Why was egypt bombing the bar lev line for 3 years? Isreal wasn't talking. They took Sinai, Golani and the West Bank and they cut off all communication with the arabs. Everything else is bull shit.
I see that you get your information from very anti israel websites that are conveniently missing the facts, the golan heights were used from 1949-1967 to take pot shots at israeli population centers and the occassional sniper shot if anyone got close enough, be it an arab or jewish citizen. This is why the israelis near the golan heights used to sleep in bomb shelters, and the roads would have to be regularily inspected for mines. The syrians also allowed terrorist movement through the golan heights. read below for more details about the bar lev bombing. It might have something to do with egypt blockading all supply ships going to and from israel in the suez canal and egypt's acceptance fo a resolution the declared NO peace with israel, NO recognition of israel and NO negotiations with israel. The egyptian government formally declared that there only relations with israel will be through warfare. And lets not forget that following the first blockade of the suez canal in 1956, israel declared that a second blockade would be considered an act of war.
The reason why Isreal still has the Golan Heights and WILL NEVER GIVE IT BACK TO SYRIA is because of the Jordan River. Without it, Isrealis will have no water and dehydrate to death. It's their only source of drinking water.
23% of israel's water supply comes from the jordan river, not all of it.
They don't want to give back the west bank because of a geographic military advantage. Israel has a policy of battle readiness which means that 365 days a year, 24/7 they are ready to sustain a full frontal attack. It's how they guarantee the safety of their land. If the west bank isn't under their control, it takes exactly 1 hour and 15 minutes to drive from the border of the west bank to tel aviv. They can't ensure battle readiness with such a small distance. Even worse are air strikes. A jet could hover the border and then bomb tel aviv and back before they can scramble any jets to intercept.
And history has shown that given concession, an attack will ensue. Fortunately for israel, its arab neighbours seem to be more interested in mutilating their own population.
When Israel controlled Sinai for 15 years, they looked for oil everywhere. Millions of dollars of exploration. You know that gulf between sinai and saudia arabia was closed land thousands of years ago? Most of Saudi oil is in the north west part of the country. Oil comes fome fossil fuels. Do the math.
The egyptian government implemented a blockade on the israeli port of eilat in the 1956, not allowing passage of any ships to israel or from israel. Israel along with france and england took control of the sinai for a few months and withdrew following the implementation of (UNEF) which prevented military control of the sinai and blockading of ships to and from israel. In 1967 egypt re-instated its military presence in the Sinai, as well as the blockade of any ships to or from israel and ordered UNEF out of the sinai without security council approval, subsequently israel attacked egypt and jordan under military threat, initiating the 6 day war. Shortly after the 1973, as part of the sinai disengagement agreements, israel withdrew from the canal after egypt agreeing to allow shipments to and from israel, in 1979 egypt signed an agreement with israel to remove its present from the sinai in stages until 1982, all settlements were dissmantled. This is what actually happend, not an oil hunt.
Why the fuck would Isreal offer the lands back if it attacked first? They started the war in 1967. This is fact. Egypt had troops in the Sinai because the russians gave them false intelligence (Which the mossad had to do with) that Israel was going to attack. Then Israel used the deployement of troops in Sinai as a reason to attack.
Egypt made the first move in 1967 by blockading ships going to and from israel as a result of increased tensions between israel and syria as the syrian government was allowing terrorist organizations to pass freely through there border with israel despite the fact that Israel declared in 1957 that ayn closure of the straights would be considered an act of war, and as a result of massives amounts of propaganda from the governments of neighbouring arab countries toward the imminent destruction of israel through a united arab attack as (the public goal was the total destruction of israel) , the israeli government decided not to wait for the attack to come, and the nation to be destroyed, but rather to destroy the militaries, of it ennemies in 6 days, targeting only military installations.
And make no mistake, if israel had waited for an attack and lost the war, the arab governments would not have stopped at simply seizing the land, genocide is a very common practice in these countries. .
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logically, why doesnt the arab world acknoledge isreal ? the answer to that basically answers everything that has happened since what was it 1947 or somthing like that
Many people have been living in the area for thousands of years, many christians, many muslims, and many jews. I dont think you really understand the situation, the history of the region or the nature of the propaganda that you bought. Maybe visit israel and speak to the locals, see how they live.
For those who are interested:
Pre World War
youre text is pure propaganda, the brtish mandate of palestine was originally a shit sized hole of a couple of km's that was populized by british and german immigration programs before ww2. they never really dealt anything with the palestinians there except for buying land from palestians with all theyre holocoast doe $$$
when the 50'S came the jews started killing ppl there in all out night operation with guns and bombs and since the king of jordania did not care they got away with for a long time because the ppl that where being massacred had no country to be represented. there was no negotiation or kindness from 'israel ' , they just took what internatinal law did not care to protect
people don't hate israelis
israelis hate anybody who isn't israeli
look at the ethnic cleansing amongst Ashkenazi , oriental jews, arabs and now black migrants in israel.
http://www.jpost.com/NationalNews/Article.aspx?id=281972
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...en-teenagers-Jerusalem-wouldnt-cigarette.html
Many people have been living in the area for thousands of years, many christians, many muslims, and many jews. I dont think you really understand the situation, the history of the region or the nature of the propaganda that you bought. Maybe visit israel and speak to the locals, see how they live.
For those who are interested:
Pre World War
youre text is pure propaganda, the brtish mandate of palestine was originally a shit sized hole of a couple of km's that was populized by british and german immigration programs before ww2. they never really dealt anything with the palestinians there except for buying land from palestians with all theyre holocoast doe $$$
when the 50'S came the jews started killing ppl there in all out night operation with guns and bombs and since the king of jordania did not care they got away with for a long time because the ppl that where being massacred had no country to be represented. there was no negotiation or kindness from 'israel ' , they just took what internatinal law did not care to protect
You seem like your a very intelligent guy, very well educated too. Dose dem der jews carrying out dem night operations on dose poor arabs sitting peacfully minding there own business. poor guys.
Im curious why you hate israel so much when you really dont know much about the region, like Syrians coast that was stolen by israel... waitwut lol?
You seem like your a very intelligent guy, very well educated too. Dose dem der jews carrying out dem night operations on dose poor arabs sitting peacfully minding there own business. poor guys.
and youre gonna tell me them happy loving jews never did no genocide againts nobody? ...........sure ......
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^^ what ?
honestly you can tell the jews in the thread - their very butthurt
anyone can look at the ethnic cleansing going on in israel where AFRICAN immigrants are being deported just for being black... its disgusting
It's not his fault he has to write "a bible", he's just trying to explain that with every 5 words you type out, it is filled with lying facts and propaganda.do you agree with the boycot ? do you beleive whats going on in the region just ? answer thse 2 question without writing a freeking bible about . yes or no