Winter tires: does size matter?

Don't do studs. In a dry conditions your braking capability is severely compromised.

Never had braking issue, wet/dry/snow/ice. 245/65R17 for winter, 245/50R20 summer.

Ça va gripper un peu moins sur le sec mais de la a dire "dont do studs", nope. C'est la 2e fois que j'ai des studs, l'autre c'était un S10 RWD, et les 2 fois j'ai adoré l'expérience. Dès qu'il neige et que c'est glacé c'est assez fou combien ça gratte et ça grippe.

Je préfère avoir plus d'adhérance quand il ne fait pas beau. Je feel 100% safe dry/wet/snow/ice.
 
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J'ai des studs sur mes 2 véhicules a moi

Samedi passé j'ai du faire une manoeuvre d'urgence a haute vitesse.

Asphalte mouillé
Vitesse de 110 km/h
Buck qui me saute dans face

J'ai freiné au planché, ABS en fonction
Le chevreuil s'est déplacé dans la trajectoire que j'avais pris en débutant mon freinage donc j'ai du corrigé a environ 70-80km/h sur les clous. Le cul du truck a déporté, le systeme de stabilité a embarqué mais ma trajectoire était correct et j'au été en mesure de le contourné.

110 voie de droite, tasse completementa gauche et a 70-80 j'ai du revenir a droite. Je suis passé a coté de lui a environ 35-40km/h.


Connaissant mon véhicule je dirais qu'avec un pneu d'hiver, genre Blizzak, j'aurais probablement réussi a arreté.
A l'inverse, en 17 pouces a clous je suis pas certain que le truck aurait résisté au changement de voie a 80.

Sur l'asphalte il faut y aller avec précaution pcq ca répond pas pantoute pareil. A la seconde j'ai touché au frein l'ABS a embarqué.
 
roues de becyk 185 de large crew. La taille OEM en 15 pouces c'est du 185/60 donc j'ai pris ca pour l hiver. L'ete je roulais avec du 205/45/17.
 
Holy shit, i just got my hakkapeliittas installed (studded). They are actually loud lol. But whatever i love it lol. I tried braking in a small parking lot near my house that has some patches of ice. The traction is pretty damn impressive. Way better than the Chinese winters my car came with (yes i know im stating the obvious)
 
skinny is better in winter. smaller contact patch means more weight per area, which means you cut through snow. wider means you sit on top of it, and snow is slippery. Ice is a different thing since a wider tire is better for ice, but then again, if you have a skinny studded tire = best of both worlds

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ouien, sauf qu'eux changent leurs tires aux 100km genre...

100km de pied au planché + drift + nameIT est probablement équivalent a 10-15-20k km de road use. De plus, le compound n'est assurément pas le même donc l'usure est accentué VS des pneus de courses.


Ce que snail pointe et qui est 100% logique est : Si des pneus plus larges étaient excellent l'hiver les chars de rally roulerait tous du pneu large + crampon l'hiver.
 
skinny is better in winter. smaller contact patch means more weight per area, which means you cut through snow. wider means you sit on top of it, and snow is slippery. Ice is a different thing since a wider tire is better for ice, but then again, if you have a skinny studded tire = best of both worlds

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There is a huge difference between ''better in winter'' and ''better in snow''.

Those ultra skinny rally tires are used for loose surfaces with deep snow, and high speeds.

For lower speed city stages on hard pavement, rally tire are more similar to what regular folks like me and you drive on, they use wider tires that look alot more like street tires (middle and right tires):

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Yea, wider tires with a greater contact patch will always be better on hard surfaces. But in extreme blizzards, Studded definitely seems like the way to go. I dont mind sacrificing some dry traction so i can have god like traction on ice and snow. Way I see it, People tend to get stuck in deep snow not dry pavement :laugh:
 
Yea, wider tires with a greater contact patch will always be better on hard surfaces. But in extreme blizzards, Studded definitely seems like the way to go. I dont mind sacrificing some dry traction so i can have god like traction on ice and snow. Way I see it, People tend to get stuck in deep snow not dry pavement :laugh:

Once again, it's the emergency braking and evading on dry that's sketch.

As far as rally tires go, they show up with 5 different sets of tires for all conditions. Look up tractionising tires.
 
Once again, it's the emergency braking and evading on dry that's sketch.

As far as rally tires go, they show up with 5 different sets of tires for all conditions. Look up tractionising tires.

I tried hard braking today a couple times, ABS definetly kicks in easier than on other tires iv had. But it seems managable. I mean obvious you have to adopt different driving styles for different tires. Im not gonna drive the same way on the hakkapeliittas as I would with my ADVAN sports on a hot summer day.

I think this week im gonna go on a quiet road and see how the car handles quick direction changes at relatively high speeds.
 
I’ve ran 225’s on 8” rims and this year wil be trying out 255’s on the same rims.

I’ll report back once I get them mounted.
 
I tried hard braking today a couple times, ABS definetly kicks in easier than on other tires iv had. But it seems managable. I mean obvious you have to adopt different driving styles for different tires. Im not gonna drive the same way on the hakkapeliittas as I would with my ADVAN sports on a hot summer day.

I think this week im gonna go on a quiet road and see how the car handles quick direction changes at relatively high speeds.

My Hakka 7s are...very sh!tty on dry pavement above -5*C. They're very soft and slide like crazy; I really have to adjust my driving style because I'm almost brushing the guardrail when I try to take my exit / highway entrance...

I'n not a fast driver by any means, but I like my momentum.

When the blizzard set in, that's when these things shine. This is my 4th winter with them and they still have a decent amount of tread left.
 
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