Big Pat
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This is the most reliable VW of all time :run:
I got nothing to prove that but that would be laugh as hell.
It very well could be... VW Taro, rebadged Toyota Hilux.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Taro
This is the most reliable VW of all time :run:
I got nothing to prove that but that would be laugh as hell.
Sure but the fact remains that jap samples which are most likely taken from same source as the euro ones(that classy gentleman you posted) were ranked higher with wtv given conditions and criterias.
The conditions aren't the same. VW are better serviced by a specialist. We don't know where customers of warranty direct repair their vehicles.
Let me give you an example. In 2008, my wife took my 1992 Jetta to Quebec City. That car was a tank, nothing ever went wrong with it. Before her trip I installed new spark plugs wires, distributor cap and spark plugs. Turns out I didn't install the distributor cap correctly(like an idiot) and when she gets to Quebec the car stalls on a main road.
She calls a towing and being a Sunday, only garage that's open is CT. The car arrives and the head mechanic comes to see her before even checking the car to say "oh well it's a vw, it's probably an electrical problem, it's going to take us like 4-5 hours to figure it out. Obviously she calls me right away, passes me the mechanic who starts giving me bullshit about how VW's are garbage cars, unreliable and plagued with electrical problems. I told him to check the ignition system.
My wife called me 15 minutes later and told me the car was fixed, it cost her 25$ and she was back on the road. We had that car for four years and the only trouble it gave us was caused by me.
I think mechanics perception on these cars and how they repair them plays a huge role on how these cars perform in these studies.
A Honda rolls in and they diagnose it properly, a VW rolls in, most mechanics assume the cars has bunch of problems, dollar signs and ignore the easy fixes which are the case most of the time. This self fulfilling prophecy I've experienced could very well affect the "reliability" results of these studies. VW mechanics treat VW's like a general mechanic treats a Japanese car, that is without a pre-conceived bias against the car.
I'm not saying VW are or aren't reliable, I've personally had nothing but great experiences with these cars. I'm just saying how factors other than the reliability could affect the results of this study, such as brand perception and where the owners of extended warrantied cars choose to repair their cars.
And just the fact that they claim VW's are nearly as unreliable as Rovers makes this study absolutely laughable. Rovers were the most unreliable cars in an era when the MOST reliable cars where less reliable than today's least reliable cars...
Écoute ceci tu vas va comprendre pourquoi les nouvelles s-class se vendent aussi cher. Ça n'a rien a comparer à lexus ou infiniti. Ca dure 5min, mais ça vaut le temps.
your case sounds like an isolated case. the mechanic seems to be just incompetent.
case like yours can happen to anyone with any car. some guy with a toyota can misinstall some part, creating an unnecessary problem, then brings it to a garage, and some incompetent mechanic diagnoses it wrong and end up making everything worst. it happens. happend to me (my car is a honda), happened to a lot of people i know.
and you seem to assume a lot. if you assume that most of average mechanics assume that there's a problem where there is none when they are dealing with vw, then you shouldn't go to that garage either way. and that garage will fuck customers regardless of what car they deal with.
and btw reliability is not about whether the problem gets fixed or not. when you are coming into a garage, any garage, that means you have a problem. small or big. for any brand of cars.
if VW mechanics need a specialist, then personally i think that just adds one more complexity for no reason. it's not about being good or bad, it just one more unnecessary hassle. i'm sure your wife would agree.
the point is, with given samples from same source with same conditions and criteria, japs were generally ranked higher. it's simple as that.
and personally, i don't really believe any of those reliability reports all that much. i think it all depends on how well you take care of the car. any car can be less problematic depending on how much you spend your money on "preventative" maintenances for your unreliable car. but it doesn't mean the car itself is a good. if the car needs more meticulous maintenance and attention, it just means design flaw and poor engineering in my book.
some people get this, some people don't.
The 2006-2007 have a weak link, the timing chain guides. Some motors were fine running well into 300 000km with no issues, and a few others wore the gear down on the intake camshaft. That was rare but it did happen.
The 08+ have revised chain guides which are trouble free, they fit on the 06-07 models. Most of the cars that had major timing chain problems were repaired years ago under warranty, so generally you're pretty safe with any 06-07 2.5L today, buy I wouldn't buy one without a receipt or warranty for a timing chain job...
Not really surprised to be honest. I swear each time you see a stranded car on the road it's a VW, not an old Honda, Chevy, Ford or Toyota it's always a VW that's enough to keep me away from them, that and their horrible customer service lol.
common lol . compare fkng shitbox honda with few relay , manual seats , with 20 yo trottle body system , 2 sensors , 1 o2 sensor,,,,, to some cars with full electrical seats in 5 positions adjustment , with cooling trottle body , with cooling alternator , with 4 02 sensors , with 30 relays and 50 fuses , with programble key etc etc etc .
20k jap fans-- plzz take a seat!!!!!
A recent survey has found that German cars, including Audi, BMW and VW, are among the worst when it comes to engine failure.