theoutsider
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Malade! Tu devrais poster plus souvent c est juss trop hot tes theories, on apprends beaucoup quand tu ecris. Merci man
Attentats terroristes à Paris
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*VR6*
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Pas nécessairement non.
C'est peut-être une question de temps avant que la portion radicale de l'islam devienne majoritaire oui, mais des familles musulmanes qui adhère à une "belle" version de l'islam et qui utilise leur gros bon sens pour séparer le bien du mal il va toujours y en avoir.
FT86RWD
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ouai ouai...
I know, I like him. Dude's funny as hell and works hard. But I don't really consider him a muslim even though he might for his own peace of mind I guess. Statistics aren't everything but I know what you're saying and I don't disagree.
FT86RWD
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voici a quoi ressemble un forum ou les theories sont envoyer en priver.
قوانين وتعليمات المنتدى
١. تحلَّ بروح المساعدة، دون أن تجرح مشاعر الآخرين. إذا ما كان أحد لا يتقن العربية أو الإنجليزية (أو أي لغة أخرى)، فلا تعامله بطريقة سيئة.
٢. تحلَّ بأخلاق حسنة. نرحب باستخدام كلمات مثل "مرحبا" و"أهلاً" و"شكراً".
٣. ابحث عن الجواب في القواميس أولاً.
٤. ضع الكلمة أو العبارة التي تود الاستفسار عنها في العنوان عند طرحك سؤالاً. (الرجاء عدم اختيار عناوين مثل "ترجمة فضلاً" و"كيف أقول هذا؟" و"هل توجد هذه الكلمة؟" و"أنا جديد" وما شابه ذلك.)
٥. الرجاء توفير جملة كمثال يُظهر سياق الكلام.
٦. الرجاء استخدام وسيلة الموجودة تحت كل مساهمة، إذا قرأت مساهمة تحتوي على كلام أو صور مشكوك بها أو إذا شعرت أن المساهمة غير لائقة لهذا المنتدى. هذا يساعدنا على إدارة المنتدى بشكل سلس.
٧. الرجاء عدم استخدام المنتدى كموقع تشات (أي دردشة) فذلك أسلوب غير فعّال. الرجاء استخدام وسيلة الرسائل الخاصة إذا أردت أن ترسل رسالة شخصية إلى أحد أعضاء المنتدى الآخرين. (بإمكان مستخدمي أجهزة أن ينقروا نقرة يُمنى على اسم العضو.
٨. الرجاء عدم وضع روابط لمواقع تجارية. هذا المنتدى خالٍ من الدعاية ونحن نود أن يبقى كذلك.
٩. إذا كانت لديك أسئلة أخرى الرجاء طرحها في منتدى التعليقات والاقتراحات أو إرسال رسالة خاصة إلى مدير(ة) المنتديات المفضل(ة) لك.
۱٠. الرجاء مراجعة قوانين المنتدى من وقت إلى آخر حيث يتم تحديثها حسب الضرورة.
لمز
قوانين وتعليمات المنتدى
١. تحلَّ بروح المساعدة، دون أن تجرح مشاعر الآخرين. إذا ما كان أحد لا يتقن العربية أو الإنجليزية (أو أي لغة أخرى)، فلا تعامله بطريقة سيئة.
٢. تحلَّ بأخلاق حسنة. نرحب باستخدام كلمات مثل "مرحبا" و"أهلاً" و"شكراً".
٣. ابحث عن الجواب في القواميس أولاً.
٤. ضع الكلمة أو العبارة التي تود الاستفسار عنها في العنوان عند طرحك سؤالاً. (الرجاء عدم اختيار عناوين مثل "ترجمة فضلاً" و"كيف أقول هذا؟" و"هل توجد هذه الكلمة؟" و"أنا جديد" وما شابه ذلك.)
٥. الرجاء توفير جملة كمثال يُظهر سياق الكلام.
٦. الرجاء استخدام وسيلة الموجودة تحت كل مساهمة، إذا قرأت مساهمة تحتوي على كلام أو صور مشكوك بها أو إذا شعرت أن المساهمة غير لائقة لهذا المنتدى. هذا يساعدنا على إدارة المنتدى بشكل سلس.
٧. الرجاء عدم استخدام المنتدى كموقع تشات (أي دردشة) فذلك أسلوب غير فعّال. الرجاء استخدام وسيلة الرسائل الخاصة إذا أردت أن ترسل رسالة شخصية إلى أحد أعضاء المنتدى الآخرين. (بإمكان مستخدمي أجهزة أن ينقروا نقرة يُمنى على اسم العضو.
٨. الرجاء عدم وضع روابط لمواقع تجارية. هذا المنتدى خالٍ من الدعاية ونحن نود أن يبقى كذلك.
٩. إذا كانت لديك أسئلة أخرى الرجاء طرحها في منتدى التعليقات والاقتراحات أو إرسال رسالة خاصة إلى مدير(ة) المنتديات المفضل(ة) لك.
۱٠. الرجاء مراجعة قوانين المنتدى من وقت إلى آخر حيث يتم تحديثها حسب الضرورة.
لمز
But to me, the thing is mass immigration is a different matter. You increase the chances to bring in undesirables exponentially. And I don't mean only terrorists, as I said earlier. I mean crazy fucks like the Shafias and others who cause harm to the people around them without going all the way to killing them.
Let's imagine things.
The muslim immigrant population increases significantly to a point where they have an actual hand in popular opinion and their vote starts to have real weight. Let's go fucking crazy and say the feminization(lel) of society and the increasing influence of the LGBT community (including marriage, which I support fully) keeps going at this rate. A large population of muslim immigrants who treat women and gay people like shit are not going to be happy about it. Bombs went off in the past for stupider reasons than that.
What I'm saying is that their way of life is not compatible with where the west is heading right now. I came up with a worse case scenario but what that scenario means is that they will not be happier here in 10 years than they were 20 years ago living in muslimistan. Homosexuality is a crime over there and some of the people who have migrated to europe have seen people getting killed in the streets for shit like that. Some of them disagreed, but some didn't. Remember sharia law is very popular in the middle east.
Armed groups are taking it to the extreme and that's why they're fleeing, but even when their countries were not boiling chauldrons of war, they were intolerant people according to our standards here, and they would be more than happy to go back to these times when they could simply disavow their sons for being gay and not having them automatically decapitated by the police because a neighbor opened it's mouth.
OF COURSE these people are not terrorists, but their mindset hasn't changed just because they are fleeing their homes.
Mass immigration increases the chances that groups of intolerant individuals seek to reclaim their idea of "peace" in a country where no one dares put their foot down, but they will end up in a matriarchal society full of married gay people.
I used these examples because that's all I can think about right now but there are many other things that could also be taken into consideration.
It's a game of numbers. Integration is more difficult when big groups all flood in.
And that's why I think if we must help them, it's in the middle east and not by welcoming them here. I don't fucking understand why every country is tip toeing around the issue, there will be a huge wave of right-wing across europe and migrants will be persecuted in Europe, which is not any better than being persecuted at home by your own people.
My simpleton mind thinks that if we don't take action and kick some ass over there, everybody loses.
It's millions of people at once we are talking about, not just thousands. This will have a big impact.
Let's imagine things.
The muslim immigrant population increases significantly to a point where they have an actual hand in popular opinion and their vote starts to have real weight. Let's go fucking crazy and say the feminization(lel) of society and the increasing influence of the LGBT community (including marriage, which I support fully) keeps going at this rate. A large population of muslim immigrants who treat women and gay people like shit are not going to be happy about it. Bombs went off in the past for stupider reasons than that.
What I'm saying is that their way of life is not compatible with where the west is heading right now. I came up with a worse case scenario but what that scenario means is that they will not be happier here in 10 years than they were 20 years ago living in muslimistan. Homosexuality is a crime over there and some of the people who have migrated to europe have seen people getting killed in the streets for shit like that. Some of them disagreed, but some didn't. Remember sharia law is very popular in the middle east.
Armed groups are taking it to the extreme and that's why they're fleeing, but even when their countries were not boiling chauldrons of war, they were intolerant people according to our standards here, and they would be more than happy to go back to these times when they could simply disavow their sons for being gay and not having them automatically decapitated by the police because a neighbor opened it's mouth.
OF COURSE these people are not terrorists, but their mindset hasn't changed just because they are fleeing their homes.
Mass immigration increases the chances that groups of intolerant individuals seek to reclaim their idea of "peace" in a country where no one dares put their foot down, but they will end up in a matriarchal society full of married gay people.
I used these examples because that's all I can think about right now but there are many other things that could also be taken into consideration.
It's a game of numbers. Integration is more difficult when big groups all flood in.
And that's why I think if we must help them, it's in the middle east and not by welcoming them here. I don't fucking understand why every country is tip toeing around the issue, there will be a huge wave of right-wing across europe and migrants will be persecuted in Europe, which is not any better than being persecuted at home by your own people.
My simpleton mind thinks that if we don't take action and kick some ass over there, everybody loses.
It's millions of people at once we are talking about, not just thousands. This will have a big impact.
Quand ça fais des pages que le thread dérape, des fois sa peut être bon de retourner au sujet initial (ie le massacre de paris et non l'islam at large)
Allons tout le monde, pratiquons notre meilleur expressions de surprise suite à la révélation de l'identité de certains des sujets...
Non non, il ne s'agit pas de Bernard ou de Paul mais bien d' Ismail M. et Abbdul Akbak B
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/pa...ls-race-piece-together-assailants-ids-n463716
http://www.ibtimes.com/who-are-isma...attackers-responsible-france-2184325?ft=95p2z
Il faut probablement résister à la tentation d'associer des noms moyens-orientaux à une certaine Religion de la Paix ™ pour ne pas offencer nos amis P.C
It's certainly starting to look that way:
At least one man linked to Paris attacks registered as refugee in Greece: police
FT86RWD
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pis nous autre (ie m. trudeau) veux les ameners ici pour les aiders...a nous attaquers.
j'espere juste que je me trompe.
Lexus
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So many beautiful and fun things to do in the world, why some people choose this path is beyond me. In general, the path of religious extremism (regardless if violent or not) seems like such a waste when time is so limited and it seems deprived of anything fun (except for Raeliens
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Lexus
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Et c'est ici le debat je pense et meme entre eux il y a bcp de chicanes pour etablir c'est quoi un "vrai musulman". On avance souvent des ciffres, 1.5 miliard de musulman, oui sur papier mais est-ce que tous sont de "vrais"? Non, surement pas. Et ca s'applique a toutes les religions ou sur papier il y a des "regles" a suivre, les leaders religieux aimeraient que tous ceux qui font partie en theorie de leur eglise, les suivent, mais la realite est que juste une petite partie practique la religion a la lettre ou presque. C'est simplement l'evolution de l'eglise et les Chretiens sont rendu la, ou il y a bcp plus de tolerance et acceptation entre les "purs" et les peu ou pas practiquants, et tout ceux entre les deux. Les musulmans ne se sont pas rendu a ce stade la malheuresement mais pourquoi ils pourraient pas, avec le temps y arriver? Ca va prendre encore du temps, et p-e plus que ca a prit les chretiens specialement parce qu'il y a encore des pays ou la loi de l'etat est la loi de l'islam mais c'est possible.....ou au moins avoir l'espoir.
lord_galathon
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Something 'constructive' here http://www.petitions24.net/non_a_limmigration_des_25000_refugies
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Lexus
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Interesting article
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...re-defining-Islam.-We-Muslims-must-react.html
I find this is the exact way the muslim community should address the issue. The magic word is REFORM.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...re-defining-Islam.-We-Muslims-must-react.html
I find this is the exact way the muslim community should address the issue. The magic word is REFORM.
blackyGTI98
Legacy Member
From what i know, Tunesia, Egypt, Algeria, Lebanon, all have an army, if this would be true they would press for an attack to ISIS , also keep in mind, theres no way to sugar coat it but, Killing 1 ISIS guy will probably result to killing 2 good samaritain Syrians
if i'd be the WEst, id ''lent'' a hand instead of attacking directly,
to not be directly involved in this fight because it will be like any post WWII fight, a blo0dbath for civilians
Larkee
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Paroles de barbares après les attaques terroristes
VQNismo
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De qui parle-t-il en nommant les lâches? Les victimes ou les terroristes?