News: Confirmed: Mid Engined Corvette!
- Thread starter Metro666
- Start date
Metro666
Well-known member
![[Ef]saceone[sF]](/forums/data/avatars/m/0/880.jpg?1701035840){kind=avatar}
[Ef]saceone[sF]
Moderator
Sweet! Flat 8? Haha
Rice.Rockets
Well-known member
Yes a test mule. back then when they were designing the ford GT, the test mule for the engines were these:
Stirl_ae86
Legacy Member
If Chevy will change the engine position of the Corvette, why won't Porsche put the 911's engine where it belongs?
I read today taht the test mule engines for the first viper was a 360cid V8 with two cylinders welded to the back, with a lamborghini casted block...
good read:
http://www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticles/ID/3740/Project-Viper-GTS-Part-1--Intro-and-History.aspx
from the article:
The Viper really is all about its engine. While Chrysler didn’t have a large budget for an exciting powertrain, they had a cast iron V-10 in the works for an upcoming Ram Heavy Duty. Lutz knew this big block was exactly what the Viper needed to differentiate itself in the sports car world, but it was going to be too heavy and it had to be made of aluminum for improved weight and performance. In the meantime, Roush Engineering took Chrysler’s old 360 cubic inch, 300hp cast ion 318 “LA” motor and grafted on two extra cylinders to make a 450ci V-10 for the test mule.
During this point in time Chrysler owned Lamborghini, who had a lot of experience designing and casting large aluminum engines and had a far more experienced supply base with much faster turnaround times and experience with a project like this compared to Chrysler’s slow to respond mass-production suppliers. Prior to the Viper, Lamborghini and Chrysler really didn’t communicate all that much, nor did they after.
Lamborghini completely changed the design of the cast iron V-10 to improve manufacturability and performance when cast out of aluminum. The heads and block share virtually nothing with the truck engine other than its 4.00” bore and 3.88” stroke. The first three V-10s were actually cast, machined, and assembled by Lamborghini in Modena, Italy before production started in Highland Park, Michigan. Once strapped to the dynos in Detroit, the first aluminum V-10 made an adequate 340 horsepower but had plenty of issues as well as potential. Meanwhile in 1990, Lee Iacocca tested the VM-02 prototype with the 360hp Roush-built cast iron V-10 and gave the project an official green light.
good read:
http://www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticles/ID/3740/Project-Viper-GTS-Part-1--Intro-and-History.aspx
from the article:
The Viper really is all about its engine. While Chrysler didn’t have a large budget for an exciting powertrain, they had a cast iron V-10 in the works for an upcoming Ram Heavy Duty. Lutz knew this big block was exactly what the Viper needed to differentiate itself in the sports car world, but it was going to be too heavy and it had to be made of aluminum for improved weight and performance. In the meantime, Roush Engineering took Chrysler’s old 360 cubic inch, 300hp cast ion 318 “LA” motor and grafted on two extra cylinders to make a 450ci V-10 for the test mule.
During this point in time Chrysler owned Lamborghini, who had a lot of experience designing and casting large aluminum engines and had a far more experienced supply base with much faster turnaround times and experience with a project like this compared to Chrysler’s slow to respond mass-production suppliers. Prior to the Viper, Lamborghini and Chrysler really didn’t communicate all that much, nor did they after.
Lamborghini completely changed the design of the cast iron V-10 to improve manufacturability and performance when cast out of aluminum. The heads and block share virtually nothing with the truck engine other than its 4.00” bore and 3.88” stroke. The first three V-10s were actually cast, machined, and assembled by Lamborghini in Modena, Italy before production started in Highland Park, Michigan. Once strapped to the dynos in Detroit, the first aluminum V-10 made an adequate 340 horsepower but had plenty of issues as well as potential. Meanwhile in 1990, Lee Iacocca tested the VM-02 prototype with the 360hp Roush-built cast iron V-10 and gave the project an official green light.
Vortx
New member
Yes a test mule. back then when they were designing the ford GT, the test mule for the engines were these:
OmegaBoost
Shop Representative
I really wonder how much more can they improve over the current platform. seems to me that the current C7 is already a lot for a production car. Next thing you know, they'll be awd with 1000hp????
because everyone love the outdated configuration of the 911 ...
meanteg
Legacy Member
La Vette mid-engine n'est pas du tout une nouvelle idée: Elle date de 1957.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...ay-for-the-mid-engined-c8-chevrolet-corvette/
meanteg
Legacy Member
Ils ont fait un prototype , en 1986, d'une Vette V8tt AWD mid-engine. Clique sur mon lien un post plus haut.
blackyGTI98
Legacy Member
Ahhhh the corvette,
C6 was great but... 2002 Grand Am like interior
C7 is near perfection
C8 might be it
who cares if it goes Mid engine, yesit breaks a tradition but The car will just be better in everyway.
UNLIKE the 911, which would have to loose its back seats for amputees
C6 was great but... 2002 Grand Am like interior
C7 is near perfection
C8 might be it
who cares if it goes Mid engine, yesit breaks a tradition but The car will just be better in everyway.
UNLIKE the 911, which would have to loose its back seats for amputees
La nouvelle ZR1 2017 va etre la corvette mid engine. Les rumeurs parle de V8TT d environ 800hp, il n y a pas eu de v8 TT dans la C7Z car ils manquaient de place... Le prix annoncé serait d environ 150K $.
pourquoi mid-engine car les ingénieurs disent qu ils ont atteint les limites de la plate-forme Front engine /RWD et veulent le statut de supercars. Alors en étant mid-engine et un look a part de la C7Z, ils disent que ca va aider a la réputation du modèle et plus de place à repousser encore les limites.
Pis la ZR1 mid engine va servir de plate-forme a la C8 qui devrait etre toute mid engine. Ils regardent l idée aussi d offrir une Vette C8 hybride AWD. Avec le meme principe des autres, mid engine au gas et front engine electrique.
Bref, beaucoup de projets à venir pour la gamme corvette.
pourquoi mid-engine car les ingénieurs disent qu ils ont atteint les limites de la plate-forme Front engine /RWD et veulent le statut de supercars. Alors en étant mid-engine et un look a part de la C7Z, ils disent que ca va aider a la réputation du modèle et plus de place à repousser encore les limites.
Pis la ZR1 mid engine va servir de plate-forme a la C8 qui devrait etre toute mid engine. Ils regardent l idée aussi d offrir une Vette C8 hybride AWD. Avec le meme principe des autres, mid engine au gas et front engine electrique.
Bref, beaucoup de projets à venir pour la gamme corvette.
Matt01
New member
If Chevy is planning a super car, why name it a corvette, we know what a corvette is, and those ^ concepts look more like a mclaren.. Bring out an all new model!
Then Ford can bring back the GT, because there's only so much they can do with the mustang (even the much better 2015 model) and that's already been planned.
Then Ford can bring back the GT, because there's only so much they can do with the mustang (even the much better 2015 model) and that's already been planned.