Donald John Trump is no longer president: what does it mean for you?

What do you think of lowest black unemployment rate in history?

Probably more to do with a strong economy and companies desperate to hire. When the economy slows, we will have to see if there is a rebound.

Is there a particular policy that you feel Trump has enacted that has led to this?
 
Don't get mad because i'm calling a spade a spade. The Right believes in free trade, open borders and reduced government interventions in the economy. Your Trump does the exact opposite of that so i'm calling him and his supporters by the definition that applies to them.
reduced government, yes.

open borders. what? since when? democrats want immigration, republicans do not. you got this mixed up. the rights want strong borders.

free trade. you got the wrong idea about 'free trade'; it doesn't mean anyone can do whatever they want. right believes in deregulation (related to point 1 in your list). That combined with the strong borders from point 2, it causes an ecosystem where local entities are free to compete in whichever way they see fit inside your borders. you can't just ignore an economic deficit, and the movement of wealth from your country to another. if you have a strong economy, other nations will buy your products and keep everyone in your country employed. if you buy elsewhere and you leave your own people on the street, it's not partisan politics, it's suicide.
 
reduced government, yes.

open borders. what? since when? democrats want immigration, republicans do not. you got this mixed up. the rights want strong borders.
Before it got taken over by nutjobs, the Republican party was pro-immigration. Just look at Reagan and both Bush speeches on immigration. You are confusing right vs left positions on economy with liberalism vs conservatism. Trumpism is located on the nationalist / interventionist economic policies side of the political spectrum.

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free trade. you got the wrong idea about 'free trade'; it doesn't mean anyone can do whatever they want. right believes in deregulation (related to point 1 in your list). That combined with the strong borders from point 2, it causes an ecosystem where local entities are free to compete in whichever way they see fit inside your borders. you can't just ignore an economic deficit, and the movement of wealth from your country to another. if you have a strong economy, other nations will buy your products and keep everyone in your country employed. if you buy elsewhere and you leave your own people on the street, it's not partisan politics, it's suicide.
Your position is contrary to free capitalism.
 
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I wish we had this version of him from 30 years ago.

Maybe, but he also has acquired 30 years of wisdom since then. Smarts are great, wisdom is priceless. And yes, as dumb as Trump can sound when trying to make a point, it takes wisdom and experience to do what he's done. Also, you have to admit his message has always been consistent.

He's held it together pretty well considering he may be the most rabidly hated man in modern history, and most of it is illegitimate. Most people would have cracked by now.
 
Before it got taken over by nutjobs, the Republican party was pro-immigration. Just look at Reagan and both Bush speeches on immigration. You are confusing right vs left positions on economy with liberalism vs conservatism. Trumpism is located on the nationalist / interventionist economic policies side of the political spectrum.

Your position is contrary to free capitalism.
my position is what I think makes sense. I'm not a hard liner. I'm not religious or anti abortion. I'm not an anarchist, so I believe that some things should be regulated. Greed is one of them, in order to avoid another TARP bailout for instance. I believe in not letting companies walk out for cheaper work force and reduced quality in favor of increased profitability. you want to move your manufacture to mexico? great. do it, I don't see a problem with that, just make sure you also sell the product in mexico or wherever else you want. The firebird plant in ste-therese is now a shopping mall. that tells me that pontiac wants canadian money and that's about it. Canada and the USA are about on par for a lot of things, so it makes sense for an alliance to be forged. but move production to china and it's a different story from every point of view.
 
I'm not a fan of Piers Morgan, but I agree with what he says here. no viable candidate from the democrats, and the whole hate for Trump will only cause him to get re-elected. Also he has his ups and downs just like Obama and every other person. he's a liberal so I'm glad to see there still are reasonable people out there who don't throw blame blindly.
 
What do you think of lowest black unemployment rate in history?

Good for them I guess. That's an oddly specific, cherry picked metric. Correlation does not imply causation however.

Maybe, but he also has acquired 30 years of wisdom since then. Smarts are great, wisdom is priceless. And yes, as dumb as Trump can sound when trying to make a point, it takes wisdom and experience to do what he's done. Also, you have to admit his message has always been consistent.

He's held it together pretty well considering he may be the most rabidly hated man in modern history, and most of it is illegitimate. Most people would have cracked by now.

Yes, we've heard how he feels about his wisdom. I wouldn't say it's the most important trait I'd be looking for in a president however.

To me, it's not about "being the smarter guy in the room" on every issue. That's just not possible. It's about finding these people and making them earn their paycheck. And more importantly, listening to what they have to say. I get the impression his ego may get in the way of that.

Shaping narratives and catering to his base are definitely things he's done well at. I may not agree with a fair amount of his moves or position, but he does deserve some credit for making it to the top and sticking around as long as he has in these conditions.

I still think there's a point of diminishing return from an age vs wisdom perspective and he may not be on right "side" of that curve anymore. I'd say the same of Bernie and Biden. They're just way too old for this.

This job is too brutal and the stakes are too high. Just look at a picture of Obama in 08 vs 16. You can see it has taken it's toll. Heck, it's a good thing he couldn't run for another term. He'd probably end up as a Morgan Freeman lookalike at the end of it.

The house vote right down the party line doesn't bode well for the dems should this impeachment make it's way to the senate. I don't see them getting a supermajority based on what they've presented so far.
 
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Probably more to do with a strong economy and companies desperate to hire. When the economy slows, we will have to see if there is a rebound.

Is there a particular policy that you feel Trump has enacted that has led to this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Step_Act

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/op...p-has-delivered-african-americans/1890968001/

Not only is our national unemployment rate at historic lows, but in May 2018, African American unemployment hit a record low, and continues to hold strong. President Trump has helped create jobs and opportunities for the African American community, getting the economy working for us.

On top of keeping his promises for our economy, President Trump was successful in passing historic bipartisan criminal justice reform known as the First Step Act. This involved easing sentences for nonviolent crimes and allowing those sentenced under racially motivated mandatory minimums – something once supported by Joe Biden – to have their sentences re-evaluated and potentially overturned. Thanks to this reform, we have already seen people reunited with their families with the hope of starting a new life.

President Trump has also made fighting for Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) a major priority. His administration in one year alone appropriated more money to HBCUs than any other president, and he has taken steps to establish the Presidential Board of Advisors on HBCUs, as requested by community leaders.

The Trump administration has also worked to create Opportunity Zones that spur investment into disadvantaged communities, impacting as many as 1.4 million minority households. These zones help put a priority on rebuilding and bettering many African American communities that have long been forgotten under prior administrations.

Unfortunately for the 2020 Democratic candidates, they don’t have this kind of record of success to run on. As mayor of Newark, Sen. Cory Booker oversaw a police department that was widely criticized for civil rights and discriminatory violations. Mayor Pete Buttigieg has been chastised for his poor relationships with African Americans in South Bend. Joe Biden was opposed to the integration of schools and introduced anti-busing legislation in the 1970s and 1980s. Recently, Biden even suggested that he missed the days when he served with racist, Democrat segregationist senators.




https://www.chicagotribune.com/opin...c-race-trump-economy-progress-0822-story.html

No one cared more about the plight of black Americans than Barack Obama — our first African-American president — who won well more than 90 percent of the black vote. But the sad paradox of Obama's presidency is that a president who was going to lift up black America economically didn't deliver. From 2009 to 2015, the incomes of black Americans fell by more than $900 per family adjusted for inflation.

So far under Trump, median family incomes have risen by more than $1,000, according‎ to Sentier Research and based on Census Bureau numbers. These numbers are not broken down by race, but it's a pretty good bet that black incomes have risen with those of other races under Trump.

The black unemployment rate has fallen by a full percentage point in the last year, black labor force participation is up and the number of black Americans with a job has risen by 600,000 from last year. Preliminary data show black wages and incomes are up since the election.

The rate of job growth per month for blacks under Trump has so far been 40 percent higher than the monthly average under ‎Obama. Trump has averaged nearly 30,000 new black jobs per month. That's especially remarkable because Obama was elected when employment was way down.

Another issue that is critically important to black and Hispanic economic progress is good schools. Trump is advancing the idea of school choice so that every child can attend a quality school, public or private. In cities such as Washington, D.C., and Milwaukee, the children who benefit from voucher and scholarship programs are predominantly black. Trump wants to increase by tenfold the number of black children who benefit from these vouchers and scholarships.

The same people who denounce Trump for being a racist hypocritically oppose Trump's plan for better school options for black children. I have heard many liberal commentators compare Trump to George Wallace, the late Alabama governor who defended school segregation and stood in front of the white public schools with armed guards to keep the black children out.

Now we have liberals and teachers unions figuratively standing in front of the high-quality white private schools like modern-day George Wallaces trying to keep black children out.

Trump also wants more infrastructure spending, more energy jobs and more apprenticeship programs so our youth have access to better jobs and better training. Disproportionately, blacks and other minorities will benefit from these programs, because fewer have the financial capability to go to a four-year college.

So is Trump a racist who doesn't care about the future of black Americans? Let's face it. He's no Jack Kemp when it comes to talking about race and healing wounds with his words. But Trump is creating more jobs and higher incomes for blacks and other minorities and is trying to give a better education to every disadvantaged black child in America. That is a pretty impressive civil rights record. ‎





Dems have been keeping blacks down for decades with welfare, food stamps and other various handouts. Give them just enough to live, but keep them in that ghetto at all costs. Racist policies to the core.
Trump's policies may not all be directly aimed at blacks, but they're not designed to keep blacks down. Equal opportunity for all.. Work hard, reap rewards.
 
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Good for them I guess. That's an oddly specific, cherry picked metric. Correlation does not imply causation however.

You think Trump has no effect on the low black unemployment rate? OK fair. What caused the lowest black unemployment?

To me, it's not about "being the smarter guy in the room" on every issue. That's just not possible. It's about finding these people and making them earn their paycheck. And more importantly, listening to what they have to say. I get the impression his ego may get in the way of that.

This comment shows you don't know Trump at all.
 
I'm not a fan of Piers Morgan, but I agree with what he says here. no viable candidate from the democrats, and the whole hate for Trump will only cause him to get re-elected. Also he has his ups and downs just like Obama and every other person. he's a liberal so I'm glad to see there still are reasonable people out there who don't throw blame blindly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtlJAybySJY


I also say the same thing, as well as many other people. Are we reasonable too?
 
So Beto is throwing in the towel. Maybe stating he'd be "coming" for those AR-15s hasn't paid off the way he wanted it to.

That leaves Pocahontas, Foggy/sleepy Joe and Bernie the mad socialist as front runners. Yawn... they need some fresh blood.

You think Trump has no effect on the low black unemployment rate? OK fair. What caused the lowest black unemployment?

Surely you're aware that you're being dishonest with that statement...

What I said is that the fact you've got X outcome, in this case low unemployment number isn't solely dependent on Y person being president. It's pretty foolish to claim otherwise.

Beyond the presence of outside market forces, there may have been changes at the Municipal, County and State level that may have have had an even greater impact on these numbers than Trump's presidency. Unless you can control for all these variables, it's a pretty dubious claim to be making.

To me it's just as meaningless as stating that the sales of Beige Camrys (a "good thing") have increased by X percent while trump has been president.

This comment shows you don't know Trump at all.

Enlighten me...
 
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Donald John Trump is now president: what does it mean for you?


I like her. But with Clinton scheming against her it’s going to be an uphill battle. I also think that not being from the continental 48 nor Christian will be a hindrance to her in many races. I hope she does well but I’m skeptical of her chances of winning the nomination. I think the “establishment” would rather support warren.
 
I also say the same thing, as well as many other people. Are we reasonable too?
the fact that there is no viable democrat candidate is a sad thing.
There are far fewer people that are willing to admit that Obama had his flaws and Trump has his upside.

I like her. But with Clinton scheming against her it’s going to be an uphill battle. I also think that not being from the continental 48 nor Christian will be a hindrance to her in many races. I hope she does well but I’m skeptical of her chances of winning the nomination. I think the “establishment” would rather support warren.
The DNC supported Hillary over Bernie and they like sticking with the dinosaurs. Tulsi is fresh air and they would much rather go with a stale Warren before they support someone who thinks a little differently because they are uncertain about what she might do. The DNC doesn't want someone who thinks, but someone will repeat the tapes they have been handing out for the last 15 years. From what I've seen from Tulsi so far I think she might be a dark horse for the 2020 election whereas Warren is Hillary 2.0 and is bound to the same fate.
Tulsi is leaps and bounds ahead of Yang, but her age plays against her. I think it's too soon for her to enter a race and she might not be taken seriously. In 2-3 terms from now she would probably be a favorite to the white house.
 
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the fact that there is no viable democrat candidate is a sad thing.
There are far fewer people that are willing to admit that Obama had his flaws and Trump has his upside.


The DNC supported Hillary over Bernie and they like sticking with the dinosaurs. Tulsi is fresh air and they would much rather go with a stale Warren before they support someone who thinks a little differently because they are uncertain about what she might do. The DNC doesn't want someone who thinks, but someone will repeat the tapes they have been handing out for the last 15 years. From what I've seen from Tulsi so far I think she might be a dark horse for the 2020 election whereas Warren is Hillary 2.0 and is bound to the same fate.
Tulsi is leaps and bounds ahead of Yang, but her age plays against her. I think it's too soon for her to enter a race and she might not be taken seriously. In 2-3 terms from now she would probably be a favorite to the white house.

Back in 2016, I was thinking of Tulsi 2024.
 
I like her. But with Clinton scheming against her it’s going to be an uphill battle. I also think that not being from the continental 48 nor Christian will be a hindrance to her in many races. I hope she does well but I’m skeptical of her chances of winning the nomination. I think the “establishment” would rather support warren.

It's pretty sad they pick Warren, who is much less "electable" than Tulsi. Tulsi is real Democrat (non establishment) imo.
 
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