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We took Via to Toronto. The new Venture train-sets are lovely and onboard service is great in business class. However we arrived into Toronto nearly 2 hours late… Absolutely absurd we don’t have a dedicated passenger rail. It doesn’t even need to be high speed just need to maintain a half decent line speed of 140-160kph would be a massive upgrade.

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We took Via to Toronto. The new Venture train-sets are lovely and onboard service is great in business class. However we arrived into Toronto nearly 2 hours late… Absolutely absurd we don’t have a dedicated passenger rail. It doesn’t even need to be high speed just need to maintain a half decent line speed of 140-160kph would be a massive upgrade.

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If you want a viable alternative it has to be high speed, not high frequency. That corridor is too important for business, make it competitive vs flying and this thing will be full every day of the week.
 
We took Via to Toronto. The new Venture train-sets are lovely and onboard service is great in business class. However we arrived into Toronto nearly 2 hours late… Absolutely absurd we don’t have a dedicated passenger rail. It doesn’t even need to be high speed just need to maintain a half decent line speed of 140-160kph would be a massive upgrade.

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If you want a viable alternative it has to be high speed, not high frequency. That corridor is too important for business, make it competitive vs flying and this thing will be full every day of the week.

Iirc the trains are already full. They can’t add more capacity. If you can get the time down to around 3.75hrs its viable with existing rolling stock. You wont be doing 300kph the entire journey with high speed anyways.

Whatever new rail line that would get built risks being north of the city. I saw one proposal similar to brightline and running the line down the middle of the 20 around vaudreuil / 401 until around Kingston. Other issue is level crossings..

Id much rather sit on a delayed train vs plane
 
We took Via to Toronto. The new Venture train-sets are lovely and onboard service is great in business class. However we arrived into Toronto nearly 2 hours late… Absolutely absurd we don’t have a dedicated passenger rail. It doesn’t even need to be high speed just need to maintain a half decent line speed of 140-160kph would be a massive upgrade.

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I really like the Montreal-Toronto train to catch a flight. More relaxing, not that long vs plane etc..
 
J’ai fait Montreal-Vancouver en train il y a 11ans (sans enfants). Pas de couverture cellulaire, c’etait vraiment chill. Arrêter 3 jours a Japser a l’aller, on c’etait promener dans le coin de Banff.

Je recommande de revenir en avion par contre, ca fait cher/beaucoup de train sinon.

3 jours 4 nuits, la nourriture est vraiment bonne.

Reste a essayer le Montréal-Halifax
 
Now imagine if it was high speed, there would be no need for planes to YTZ.
100% d’accord, surtout que je reste à 5 minutes à pied du métro Jarry. C’est cool de partir à pied de la maison pour me rendre jusqu’à Grenade
 
Now imagine if it was high speed, there would be no need for planes to YTZ.
Still US traffic and regional stuff. Im not even sure a high speed line would go into toronto or Montreal proper. Big issue is electrification of the line once you get into Montreal or Toronto
 
Wanted to go to Geneva instead of Colmar, but prices for a well located 2 room appartment are nuts
Have you looked at staying in Nyon Crans or Thonon les bains? Geneve is a really small city but well connected by rail. We spend a good amount of time in the area. If you aren’t interested in Colmar, there is Annecy which is nice as well.
 
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Have you looked at staying in Nyon Crans or Thonon les bains? Geneve is a really small city but well connected by rail. We spend a good amount of time in the area. If you aren’t interested in Colmar, there is Annecy which is nice as well.
I'm happy to go to Colmar, was just stating our initial plan did not include it. We ar eonly staying one week, so it'll go by pretty quick
 
We took Via to Toronto. The new Venture train-sets are lovely and onboard service is great in business class. However we arrived into Toronto nearly 2 hours late… Absolutely absurd we don’t have a dedicated passenger rail. It doesn’t even need to be high speed just need to maintain a half decent line speed of 140-160kph would be a massive upgrade.
Excuse my ignorance, but what is the advantage ? A plane ticket is about 200$ and I assume this is priced similar ? Not even talking business...but regular ticket. I'm thinking only time advantage and I m satisfied...1h vs...
 
Excuse my ignorance, but what is the advantage ? A plane ticket is about 200$ and I assume this is priced similar ? Not even talking business...but regular ticket. I'm thinking only time advantage and I m satisfied...1h vs...
I booked the trip about a month ago as I wanted to try the new trains. Also with the weather it worked out great considering the amount of flights cancelled. It was fun but yes next time will fly. I paid around 375$ round trip business class. Prices are very similar but the train was a nice and relaxing experience. I spend enough time in airports. Its nice not having to deal with them
 
Excuse my ignorance, but what is the advantage ? A plane ticket is about 200$ and I assume this is priced similar ? Not even talking business...but regular ticket. I'm thinking only time advantage and I m satisfied...1h vs...
Tu dois te pointer à l’aéroport 2-3h d’avance vs 20 minutes avec le train.

Les billets sont entre 80 et 120$

Plusieurs vol avec escale à Toronto sont trop tight si tu part de Montréal.

Exemple mon dernier vol était 550$ Montréal-toronto-Grenade. Mais l’escale était de 1h20, le moindrement que l’avion fossé, defrost etc.. c’est raté

J’ai finalement booker Toronto-grenade pour 420$
Le train la veille 83$
Hôtel Hilton 125$
Uber 30$

Je calcul pas de bouffe because j’aurais manger pareil.

Donc pour 100$ de plus je me suis pas fait chier à stresser et à courir. Pour moi ça vaut la peine
 
375$ in business. Quand meme. Half price for " regular " ?


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Ok and? That’s flying into YYZ you still need to get into the city I could have flown into YTZ no issues but opted for the train. It literally has 0 effect on you. Anyways worked out good as there were a shit ton of cancellations flight wise due to the storm

Time to add you back on the ignore list
 
Tu dois te pointer à l’aéroport 2-3h d’avance vs 20 minutes avec le train.

Les billets sont entre 80 et 120$

Plusieurs vol avec escale à Toronto sont trop tight si tu part de Montréal.

Exemple mon dernier vol était 550$ Montréal-toronto-Grenade. Mais l’escale était de 1h20, le moindrement que l’avion fossé, defrost etc.. c’est raté

J’ai finalement booker Toronto-grenade pour 420$
Le train la veille 83$
Hôtel Hilton 125$
Uber 30$

Je calcul pas de bouffe because j’aurais manger pareil.

Donc pour 100$ de plus je me suis pas fait chier à stresser et à courir. Pour moi ça vaut la peine
Je me pointe 90 mins d'avance pour un vol international...nevermind un vol local.
Donc 60 mins c'est amplement suffisant pour moi.

Pour les escales , je comprends.

Mon principe c'est que 4h.30+ de train vs 1h30 d'avion...c'est un no brainer. Mais il a d'autres avantages, je suis d'accord, encore plus une journée comme hier. Sauf que Gregster a eu des retards aussi. Je ne sais pas si c'est normal et chaque jour...mais imagine tu prends le train pour éviter des retards, et tu finis avec des retards.



Ok and? That’s flying into YYZ you still need to get into the city I could have flown into YTZ no issues but opted for the train. It literally has 0 effect on you. Anyways worked out good as there were a shit ton of cancellations flight wise due to the storm

Time to add you back on the ignore list
Time is money.
Hence why I wanted to understand what advantages are there to spend at least 3 times more time on the road.
And I talk in general , on a sunny day, not exceptional days.
 
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